How do I deal with this?

Hi,

My crown cutlery arrived today. It's got a bit of a smile though, and who ever honed it up completely missed the heel, so it's wider at that point that it should be. it's a cool looking razor so I wanna get it up and running asap!

I've got a BBW/coticule. Plan of attack?

the pics don't really show it but meh, you can kinda make out the weird hone wear.

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Move this to basic if it's basic.

I have no BBW/Coti combos but I can tell you this.

Start with some heel forward strokes to set the heel bevel, then go to rolling xs to even it out. If it is a slight smile, fagidaboudit. That would be my plan of attack.

I'll give that a go tomorrow, i'd like to keep it smiling of possible. It's fairly obvious in the second picture how much extra metal there is there.

I think this is a good post for the advanced section, and will reply in keeping.

I have fixed a few blades like this without breadknifing:

-whip up a fast cutting slurry on the coti, put your finger on the offending heel really close to the bevel,

-bear down pretty hard, (within reason of course) with the fingertip and do circles, back and forth "japanese" strokes, concentrating on that frowny area only,

-flip razor to keep the wear even as you go, and every so often do some "standard" passes with light to mod pressure only to appease the straight razor gods and keep the bevel clean looking.

That spot should melt away pretty quick, then hone it up as usual. You might want to do the magic marker trick before you start your normal-type honing, or go by thumbnail and thumbpad tests.

Like I said, that spot should get wiped out pretty quick, and you won't have to resort to the nuclear option AKA breadknifing.

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Originally Posted by joke1176

...and you won't have to resort to the nuclear option AKA breadknifing.

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I agree completely. The breadknifing route leaves you with a LOT of work!! I know, since I've done it a couple of times, and it's not worth all the hassle getting a decent edge and bevel back.

As joke said, a coticule with slurry will do the job. I've done work like that on my norton 1000. I think anything fairly course and fast should be fine, just don't go dropping down to 220 or something that course!

I had a go but it seemed like I was getting really close to honing it out, I'd do another few strokes and it would be back.

I think next time it's on the hones once I've got a bit more experience I could get rid of it, but it took an absolutely fantastic edge so I'll leave it for now.

Well personally I'd probably use a very narrow hone and give that area the attention it needs but with a normal hone like has been said pressure to that area is probably the best way.

my hone is only just over an inch wide, so pretty narrow.

If you haven't already seen it this barber manual in the SRP Wiki Help Files here focuses on honing and stropping. It addresses the technique of maintaining a smile directly with illustrations included. I have found it to be a very helpful read. :tu

That's interesting. I'm half tempted to have another go.

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Originally Posted by gregs656

That's interesting. I'm half tempted to have another go.

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Well I note that the manual recommends a bit of pressure when setting the bevel and then lightning the pressure once the bevel is set and you go to sharpening. If I were working on that one, or any really, I like to have an eye loupe or even a microscope to better see my progress.

With the coticule it would take some patience and persistence and certainly slurry for the metal removal stage. If you haven't seen it here is a honing tutorial in the Wiki that refers to honing with the yellow/blue specifically. In that particular tutorial a DMTE was the tool for bevel setting. That is an ideal bevel setter IME but if all you have is the coticule a slurry has been found to give more cutting power and would be the way to go to reshape the heel before you go to diluting it as you sharpen. :gl:

I had another go and I got it a whole lot closer to the correct line.

Took a fantastic edge again, and very quickly.

Good for you, and you didn't have to reset the bevel or breadknife? I would have recommended against it. Blades like that offer a challange but it's not impossible. I have a few W&B's like that....

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Originally Posted by zib

Good for you, and you didn't have to reset the bevel or breadknife? I would have recommended against it. Blades like that offer a challange but it's not impossible. I have a few W&B's like that....

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I actually just used the edge of my stone and adopted a few of the ideas above.

I could have left it, it didn't impact the shave at all.