HAD PEOPLE LET'S resolve this challenge?

Well actually I need some pain killers myself :roflmao

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Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

You really know how to hurt a guy Olivia. :boohoo:

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Sigh...i too, am sensing an evil side to Olivia. :eek:

Mac

Cause you don't see the dangerous situation here.
The shelf around my desk has a very similar setup!

Its only self therapy! :w
... and not even working, LOL

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Originally Posted by 0livia

Cause you don't see the dangerous situation here.
The shelf around my desk has a very similar setup!

Its only self therapy! :w
... and not even working, LOL

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Some people believe that health and healing energy, comes from certain stones. If that is the case...im thinking a certain gentlelady, on here, is going to live to be 100+. lol
Oh, German beer should help that out too...
Sorry Sham...i do believe im straying from the original subject of your thread.

Mac

Others are probably more familiar with this possibility, but i thought i would post this Japanese stone...looks similar and is considered a fine honing stone.

Awaseto – Quarry Stones | DICK

D*mn, if this doesnt look like the same material as your hone...Jasper is also a semi-precious stone. Incidentally this arrowhead comes from Arkansas.

Looks not very far from Sham's.
Chipping mode and color are just like it.
Would be interesting to see a little bit of it polished or wet.

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Originally Posted by McWolf1969

D*mn, if this doesnt look like the same material as your hone...Jasper is also a semi-precious stone. Incidentally this arrowhead comes from Arkansas.

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this jasper does look like wow.

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Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl

this jasper does look like wow.

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looks like we have a winner folks !!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by McWolf1969

Good Lord Olivia...those pictures of rocks did not relax me. :p
I think Sham should let us come over, lay our hands on his honing stone and hum and meditate...im sure its source will come to us. lol

Mac

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Anyone any time welcome to touch,play, test and mediate any of my stones just bring your own razor's to play with.

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Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl

Anyone any time welcome to touch,play, test and mediate any of my stones just bring your own razor's to play with.

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Well, all in all, that is probably one of the most fantastic honing stones we are going to see...pure yellow Jasper, is really hard to find, in that size.
Thanks for the invite Sham...i dont think there could be anything funner than messing with those stones you've got.
If ya have a reason, to visit Washington, certainly let me know.

Mac

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Originally Posted by 0livia

ok, if that technique with beauty overload doesn't work,
we'll try scary HAD:
Go here and click on "Sharpening Stones"!

Meditating would be nice but we could also try to analyze briefly with acids and microscopes and the like...

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Didn't know she had a mean streak :p

Just trying to help GW out of misery and now its me!
Can't let him drown, can I? ;)

Sham if I ever get the chance to visit the USA
I will take your word for it.
Your offer tops my original sightseeing plans by far. :)

Busy searching Jasper now....

anytime welcome

My mineralogical brother says:

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It looks like a sweetwater diatomee chalcedon or jasper.
Similar to Arkansas hones. Disadvantage is that it makes a diamond saw dull in no time. If its a dense jasper it would be quite similar to a glass- or porcellain-plate and it has a very hard bond. You can not scratch it with a nail.

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Your brother is a minerologist? Lucky Olivia!

Mac

Yes he is. Started out when he was five years old, coming back with a broken piece of quartz crystal from the field and been into rocks ever since. :)

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Originally Posted by ChrisL

Sham, is that sedimentary layering on the side view of the stone or just dirt? There was a well known novaculite (Arkansas stones are novaculites) stone called the Hindostan stone which was found primarily or possibly even exclusively in the state of Indiana.

Hindostan was used often as a whetstone even for razors and was also used to make gravestones.

Here are some pictures that will probably not help all that much that I found on the net:

Thick/thin edge banding on the side of a Hindostan stone

Hindostan Gravestones

If you scroll down on that same site, there are some links to history papers about the whetstone industry in Indiana in the early 1800's.

I doubt yours is a Hindostan, but the color seemed similar. If yours isn't, then......SOMEONE go to Orange County, Indiana and get us some Hindostan whetstone!!

Chris L

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Apologies for reviving an old thread, but some good information about the Hindostan Whetstone can be found here The Indiana Stone and Building Industry, 1886

Regards,
Alex

Chris
I miss your last post i guess i went back to that stone it doesn't have thick and thin layers. i really don't know what is it exactly

Sham, I just saw this thread. Beautiful stone!:)

Can you scratch it with a nail?

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Originally Posted by randydance062449

Sham, I just saw this thread. Beautiful stone!:)

Can you scratch it with a nail?

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Another fine find from you Randy ?
In my short time here i've never seen such a chunk of rock like that ever ..
Now , Sham I can try if I bring some razors , correct ?
Could you send me the plane tickets over and I'll be there as soon as I can :-)

Thanks for making the HAD folk here ( no not me of course !!!! ) envious yet again ..


kind regards Garry

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Originally Posted by randydance062449

Sham, I just saw this thread. Beautiful stone!:)

Can you scratch it with a nail?

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I read this a little late.
Randy this stone is very hard stone. nail will not scratch it. dmt 150 will scratch but 600 wont. i will clean it up and put up new pictures.

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Originally Posted by Garry

Another fine find from you Randy ?
In my short time here i've never seen such a chunk of rock like that ever ..
Now , Sham I can try if I bring some razors , correct ?
Could you send me the plane tickets over and I'll be there as soon as I can :-)

Thanks for making the HAD folk here ( no not me of course !!!! ) envious yet again ..


kind regards Garry

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Sham is one of the many 'Gems,' on this sight...like his many hones. Thanks Sham for your contributions to us all!

Mac

Much has been edited out of this post by our mods but Bud, what do you think of this stone? Similar?

http://imgur.com/DMVEv.jpg
http://imgur.com/Tnt4m.jpg
http://imgur.com/GaSqw.jpg
http://imgur.com/KBmTk.jpg

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Much has been edited out of this post by our mods but Bud, what do you think of this stone? Similar?

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To be clear, a single post consisting of 9 discrete words (10 total) was removed because it was in violation of our rules.

A clear explanation was given for this via PM. Any objection to what the mods have decided upon should be brought up in a gentlemanly manner. It seems to me (and I hope I am mistaken) that this is a snarky comment made because you disagree with how the situation was handled. Please feel free to clarify this by pm to me or any mod.

-Rob

Here is a bit of info that I got from a gentleman that is familar with the arkansas novaculite stones . He sells what he terms as mountain man hones. Here is what he had to say about this hone (I passed the link to this thread for him to look at)

It looks similar. Actually, some of the stone I see at the quarry looks just like that, and with heating it will bring out the yellow more. The stone is Arkansas Novaculite. There are many different colors and composition of these stones, and this just happens to be a yellow variant. Mine are striped yellow, red, and gray, although, there are others that are solid black, white, pink, blue, yellow, and even peach colored. Arkansas Novaculite is as different in color as any stone comes. It all depends on where you quarry it as to what color it will be. I have even seen some quarries that have a lot of the different colors, but all act the same when honing. The key to a good Novaculite stone is the initial heat treating of it. As there are difference in colors ... there are also the types that act differently to different temperatures. I heat all of my 'rainbow' novaculite stones up to 850 degrees in a pottery kiln for up to 8 hours. Some blacks, yellow, and white solids only take 650 degrees for 6 hours to meet the same criteria. The microscopic cracks he sees in the stone are from heat treating. The heating process causes a chain reaction in the silica molecules and causes them to either fuse together or pull apart. This is what brings out the fine honing ability of these stones. The slurry color may either be a milky silica concentration or just from use of the stone.

so for what it is worth, there is another opinion.

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Originally Posted by scrapcan

Here is a bit of info that I got from a gentleman that is familar with the arkansas novaculite stones . He sells what he terms as mountain man hones. Here is what he had to say about this hone (I passed the link to this thread for him to look at)

It looks similar. Actually, some of the stone I see at the quarry looks just like that, and with heating it will bring out the yellow more. The stone is Arkansas Novaculite. There are many different colors and composition of these stones, and this just happens to be a yellow variant. Mine are striped yellow, red, and gray, although, there are others that are solid black, white, pink, blue, yellow, and even peach colored. Arkansas Novaculite is as different in color as any stone comes. It all depends on where you quarry it as to what color it will be. I have even seen some quarries that have a lot of the different colors, but all act the same when honing. The key to a good Novaculite stone is the initial heat treating of it. As there are difference in colors ... there are also the types that act differently to different temperatures. I heat all of my 'rainbow' novaculite stones up to 850 degrees in a pottery kiln for up to 8 hours. Some blacks, yellow, and white solids only take 650 degrees for 6 hours to meet the same criteria. The microscopic cracks he sees in the stone are from heat treating. The heating process causes a chain reaction in the silica molecules and causes them to either fuse together or pull apart. This is what brings out the fine honing ability of these stones. The slurry color may either be a milky silica concentration or just from use of the stone.

so for what it is worth, there is another opinion.

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They HEAT TREAT stones too? Hells bells, that never even occurred to me.

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They HEAT TREAT stones too? Hells bells, that never even occurred to me.

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I wonder what they do if not heat treated?

Oh yeah, for sure. Over here in Aus, there is a famous stone - the croc stone. Under ordinary circumstances, a croc stone is just another stone. But, sit it in a crocodile nest and let the croc incubate it at a certain temperature, you get a stone that is capable of honing a Chronik in 3 laps.

:D

James.

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Oh yeah, for sure. Over here in Aus, there is a famous stone - the croc stone. Under ordinary circumstances, a croc stone is just another stone. But, sit it in a crocodile nest and let the croc incubate it at a certain temperature, you get a stone that is capable of honing a Chronik in 3 laps.

:D

James.

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You're silly.:beer2:

Silly I may very well be, but *I* have a croc stone! :p

James.

Geez your a Croc a stix James! :D


Mick

I'm interested to know what the grit would be comparable to?

Where would a stone like this fit in your progression?

How has this stone been , Sham? Looks cool, did you ever find out for sure it's jasper?

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How has this stone been , Sham? Looks cool, did you ever find out for sure it's jasper?

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It was not Jasper. Some people calls it grave stone. it has couple more names too.