Some of you may have seen this one already, but I just wanted to see what the experts thought of it. Is it a good one do you think?
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Some of you may have seen this one already, but I just wanted to see what the experts thought of it. Is it a good one do you think?
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Did you nab it? I was debating it, but it was too much of a gamble for me as I know nothing about Japanese razors other than that I loved shaving with one. If she is yours, please bring it to the WNY meet.
I didn't get it for the exact same reason as you. I don't really know much about it and would rather save up for other things than gamble at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by holli4pirating
The seller apparently changed his mind on the low-ish price and it is now at 130 USD.
Great minds think alke! Bummer that he bumped up the price, though...
Now it's up to $159. I think the seller's logic is running in reverse...
Had to go look it up on ebay. Great photos, show the chips on the edge.
I like japanese razors, but since I'm pretty low on experience with them I've been only getting stuff with big name or fancy steel.
Perhaps the seller is hoping that this thread will drum up business.
Perhaps not this particular piece but in general Lynn and thebigspendur know them, JimR and Zeth do too. I've never owned one so I couldn't say one way or the other on a Kamisori. The 'name' brands are too high for me to take a chance that I would like shaving with them and I don't know how to hone them correctly either. :shrug:
I know much less about these than Jim R, Old School, Zeth and SirRed, but I can give you this nugget. The gold lettering is relatively rare in genuine kamisoris, and when you see it, it generally means that the razor is one of the top quality or "premium" versions of the razor that the maker offers. But just to temper your excitement, I own one "gold letter" Tosuke, and the quality of the blade and steel in that razor doesn't seem at all different from other Tosukes that I own, so I can't really say that the gold lettering has any actual, discernable effect on your shave or your perception of the razor. I just know from others that the gold lettering is used to denote the "high end" version of a particular manufacturer's line of razors. Good luck with the bidding! --Jeff
Thanks for the info Jeff.
Anyone have a guess as to why there's a weird bevel already set on this razor without any hone wear? I've never seen this on the few kamisoris that I've seen.
Could be that the spine was taped when the bevel was set. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by heirkb
I don't think the spine was taped, as I've never heard of anyone doing that when sharpening a Japanese razor.
If the "weird" bevel you're talking about is the bevel that appears on one side of the blade and not the other, that's actually what a kamisori is supposed to look like when sharpened properly. The bevel is assymetric -- very wide on the side without the writing and very, very narrow on the side with the writing. (I know one is the ura and the other is the omote, but I still can't remember which is which.)
Anyway, it doesn't look like a bad blade, and certainly hasn't been mistreated based on these photos, so I hope it ends up in your collection! --Jeff
There was one person honing them with tape and I hope he's got to his senses and stopped messing up perfectly good razors this way. The geometry of these razors makes using tape a terrible idea.
It's hard to tell how this one was honed, but doesn't look particularly unusual.
Still, I've found that honing out chips on these is a very serious job. I am currently working on one and it'll end up taking 10 hours.
So my advise is before you buy it make sure you are prepared to learn to and hone it, or have somebody who has agreed to do it for you.
No, I know that the bevel is really only supposed to be on one side.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffE
I guess the reason I called it weird was that there was no hone wear to accompany the nearly perfectly even bevel. Where'd that bevel come from?
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Originally Posted by gugi
Gugi, I've found that a little bit of pressure goes a long way in speeding up the chip-repair on these. I took one to my aoto using circles with firm pressure and it only took about 10 minutes to take out a .5mm chip.
I can offer two possible explanations. The first being that the razor was sharpened in the regular way and the corresponding flat on the shinogi-ji is obscured in whatever filmy residue covers the surface, or it was ground with the spine elevated.Quote:
Originally Posted by heirkb
The bevel appears to consist of very coarse striations- not those of a polish stone. As well, the width of the bevel is something one would typically not associate with NOS, as the very first bevels are usually very narrow. If this was done on purpose originally to help produce a certain desirable effect I cannot say
Jim, I've used various hones and yes quite a bit of pressure to make it happen, it's still 10 hours. May be the razor was messed up previously, but the chip is finally gone and the razor is now a microtome.
Here's a photo (sorry for the blur - low light):
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_rQyZbP-n9YM/S-...0/IMG_4208.JPG
