I sell a hugh amount of razors,strops,and shaving realted items on that venue.But the new 10% fees are off the wall.
anyone know of any other auction type sites?
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I sell a hugh amount of razors,strops,and shaving realted items on that venue.But the new 10% fees are off the wall.
anyone know of any other auction type sites?
No, sorry.
Remember "The Magnificent Seven" with Steve McQueen ? His character tells the story of the guy who tells his friend he is going to go to the poker game. His friend says 'the game is crooked.' He replies, 'I know, but it's the only game in town.' :shrug:
That's pretty simple: https://www.google.com/search?q=online+auctionsQuote:
Originally Posted by pixelfixed
And before I get accused of being a smart ass, just think about it for a second - in the internet world dominated by a couple of search engines why would you look for something that is not highly visible and highly rated by those?
I sell stuff on ebay from time to time. One time, years ago, a big time pipe shop owner in CA, Hugh Getzenberg, sent 3 Dunhill ODA tobacco pipes to me on approval. I had bought off him through ebay in the past and he had reached out with those pipes off of the bay. Anyway, for one reason or another I didn't want any of the three.
I spoke with him on the phone and offered to pay the return shipping. He thanked me but said, "no, that is the cost of doing business." I never forgot that and the philosophy impressed me enough to adopt it. So when I do auctions or sell in the classifieds I look at paypal and ebay fees, postage and insurance, as the cost of doing business. I've got my rice bowl to fill and they've got theirs.
Pixel , your just going to have to raise your rates to compensate. Call it the 10% e-bay compensation gouge and add it to shipping fee as handling. Us consumers should b**ch about it to e-bay for ya. If I thought it would do any good I would be all over it for you. Send me a petition I'll sign it.
Now I know that would never , ever, happen here,,,never ever. Attachment 116924Quote:
Originally Posted by gugi
...........Gugi, sorry I just couldn't pass it up..... :angel:
Try
Etsy - Your place to buy and sell all things handmade, vintage, and supplies
Online craft fair style web site. I've bought from vendors there. It's not an auction site but you can market stuff there and get picked up by the search engines. Etsy makes money by charging a listing fee of 20 cents for each item and getting 3.5% of every sale.
Let us know what you think
wow i should have ben bidding on police auctions.
I agree with selling the items here or on etsy. Neither are auctions, but maybe the simple straight-forwardness will grow on you.
What about a subsection in the razor section that is specifically for non-restored razors?
Yes, ebay is expensive. It's even worse for me as I sell in $US and when I withdraw funds it has to get converted to $AUD and the exchange rate they use has no bearing to reality. Between ebay, Paypal and currency fees I usually budget for losing 20% of the sale price. On the plus side, it gives me access to buyers all around the world that are interested in buying what I'm selling. Without ebay I wouldn't be in the game so I also look at the fees as the cost of doing business.
Over the Christmas Holidays i sold off 5 of my straights on Kijiji. 2 of them i mailed off with no issues. The others i met with the buyers and got to talk about one of my favorate topics. I havent seen them turn up here on this website yet but im sure they will.
Hey!!...I resemble that remark.:tuQuote:
Originally Posted by gugi
Stingray
Im not a big ebay fan, but I try to find other places as well. I don't sell much on it, but when I am looking for old parts to the motorcycles I work on for a hobby it's sometimes the only thing in town. Most of the old shops have disappear. Getting into SR has been fun but very limiting to where I can go to put hands on them. The Net in trying to make thing simple to get, but at times it makes it hard for a guy like me that likes to put hands on something before he buys it. Enough from me ranting. I just guess I am older minded on things.
Eric
I just sold my first items on e-bay, the wife and I put up some extra Christmas Collectable Bears, I just got the e-bay invoice today :( not really happy about it but we sold a few so I guess that is a plus..
I really did not like that they charge me for shipping charges too that didn't sit well
If your working with small profit margins the fees can be a killer for sure.
But ebay can also be very addicting.Sometimes You get a huge hit on a sale and thats what keeps you going back,besides the buying audiance is the worlds largest.
I guess you have to look at the average, some of the bears sold at opening price which was what we bought them for, a couple sold for double that and one sold for quadruple, so as an average it was OK We made a couple of bucks and cleaned out the extras..
Just the fact that they made money on the shipping charges really is still bugging me, the more I think about that the more it bothers me
Fellas it's a matter of perspective. If you want $20.00 for something in your hand then you have to add 20% to get it. There are ways to do this on e-bay like using Reserve price or just starting the bid at what you set it at. If it doesn't sell then the market won't bear it. Personally I think e-bay is going to evolve. Right now it favors the buyer and I believe it is because of seller perspective. I have seen sellers say outright that e-bay is charging more for shipping and so they have to pass this along to the buyer. I suspect they are doing the same at their starting bid price. It sucks that they get so much for what they do but the big money ticket on computers is traffic. And that is what you are buying from e-bay. Traffic.
Yer right of course, :) it is a great tool and they deserve their share
Glen, ebay began including the seller's shipping charges in the final value fees as an attempt to prevent sellers overcharging for shipping. At least that is their rationalization for the policy. Shortly before that was instituted they tried to enforce 'fair shipping charges' on a case by case basis if the buyer complained. They also instituted a policy of insurance being totally the seller's responsibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by gssixgun
If you see an ebay description saying insurance is optional and at the buyer's expense that seller is violating ebay rules. Anyway, like the way they stopped allowing sellers to leave anything but positive feedback ..... not really fair but it was the only solution they could come up with the prevent retaliatory feedback by sellers who had received a negative. Anyway .......
I have to agree that the fees on shipping charges is a load of bullcrap. It pisses me off to no end. Dont forget Ebay also owns paypal, and they take another chunk out of the sale when you get paid.
I have sold some antique vaccume tubes, and had the seller complain they were no good, and returned them, sending me burned out garbage that he has switched on me. And how am I supposed to report thier foul dishonest? :mad:
Sellers clearly overcharging on ebay for shipping is what made me quite buying things off there for a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyHAD
Now i am very selective about what i buy. Sometimes i buy a few nice old axe heads that it.
And if the seller putting up a crazy price of 20 bucks with a axe with a damage handle i say cut it off.
i going to have to rehandle it anyhow so put it in the flat rate box. i point out newpaper is fine.
The idea of just asking 20 percent more wouldn't work. Cause if the bidding is not starting at 9 bucks for
a really nice axe head there's no way i going to even bid. cause a good axe is worth good money and costs good money retail.
but not secnod hand cause a good axe comes with a good strong handle with the grain going the correct way no knots in the wood and a really tight ring patern. you also have to take a knife or cheap razor and smooth out the wood on the handle.
Have sold a hugh amt of JAN tungsol 6550as,but I tested them all and provided the specs for ea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magpie
Better a smart one than a dumb one I always sayQuote:
Originally Posted by gugi
My parents never appreciated that line of logic, oddly. Not sure whath I'll say if it its an issue with my kids.
Certainly, there were, and still are, plenty of people who overcharge on shipping. I am starting to rebuild my collection now, and spotted something I had to have, but it was sporting a 15 dollar shipping fee for first class mail
Outrageous! But I simply deducted that much money from what I was willing to bid on it. Plain and simple.
Dont be a sucker!
Hey Pixel ...Quote:
Originally Posted by pixelfixed
My wife found a place on google (I think by google) called Bonanza "http://www.bonanza.com/".
I will be going there also.
I found that a year ago but i gave up on looking on there longer then i was a member here.Quote:
Originally Posted by straightrazorheaven
For i always found it was only trash that was listed for sale.
but do keep in mind my buying of things was a very very very nich market grouping.
I was only buying sharpening stones at what i felt was a good price or steal.
my buying is more healty type of buying now i enjoy bucking logs.
Plus one more flaw is that there a high chance your not going to find as many buyers.Quote:
Originally Posted by straightrazorheaven
I seen at least one item on bonanza that someone fail to sell on ebay.
In the sharpening grouping.
Have you Tried etsy pixel
I am also done with eEbay. I have about 6-7 razors to go (which I have no time to work on so selling as is) and I am done. I will create web page and try to sell what I can. I guess no one will ever hear about my page as you have to pay money to search engines to be added to their fav group :-) Stupid comercial world....
It isn't true that you have to pay money to be found by search engines. You just have to be found by their trawler. To do this you have to put some HTML code on your page headers or footers.Quote:
Originally Posted by proximus26
Yea they got some handmade Bracelets on their.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tylerbrycen
In retrospect, maybe ebay is not so bad.Have been a seller since I think 1998.
Back than the final fee was I think 3/4%.
But They also charged a listing fee and picture fees which they no longer do.
Also back in the day it was all Postal M.Os or cashiers cks.Had to go to the bank,get cash, go to the P.O or pay a fee to get a Cashiers Ck.
Maybe it is almost a wash from back in the day.
wow since 1998 that was before i was done with high school that was before i got addictive to buying things. that just seems ages ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by pixelfixed
Time flys my friend,in 1998 I had my kids as seniors in college:))Quote:
Originally Posted by Suile
straightrazorheaven,
you might be complete right as I don`t have any idea about HTML and web creation, designing, search engines. I have grew up with computer since I was 4 which does not make sens, but it is truth...:-)
Well from what I see they do listing, pictures and editing fees.
Just recently I had one item which didn`t sell for quite long and all previous re-listing were almost free but one day I renew listing and got charge with $15 fee!!! They calculated all previous listing, added and charged me! I was shocked...
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Originally Posted by pixelfixed
There is still an incentive for sellers to overcharge for shipping, and that is to rip you off as a customer if there isn't a return policy where a seller pays for return shipping.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magpie
That's happened to me a couple of times. You get a refund when an item is poorly described and the seller agrees to take it back, but the shipping is set up to discourage you from even thinking about it because in the end you'll still be out a lot of coin and have nothing to show.
The higher ebay's fees get, the less I use it. I would sooner see them put some of that in the listing fee so that items actually sell instead of just sitting on there and rotating, but they know they're looking to keep gobs of listings to make it look like there's more good stuff there than there really is.
You either have to run into a new BIN listing that's low or get something on a tuesday at 2 am, something that was partially mislabeled. Otherwise, there aren't many deals to be had there.
