Well i dropped the use of the pre shave oil and made a slightly wetter lather and did a lot better at getting a much closer pass. I also used a much finer angle. So i am not quite sure what the answer to my problem of chattering was, but i get the feeling it was mainly my angle of the blade with a little bit of help from the oil. Now i just need to learn to navigate around my face without cutting and nicking myself, i dare say i am still using too much pressure and pushing to hard and my ability to stretch probably needs work, but i am now seeing just how sharp these razors are. I feel like i have a long way to go before i get a shave as comfortable and close as my DE, but it will come, just not as easily as i thought it would
Thank you all for your input and advice