Thread: Dubl Duck - Satinedge Goldedge - what's it all mean?

Looks like you got some good info that should help answer questions. I've been collecting a few months, but I still consider myself a beginner to straight shaving.

Originally Posted by BobH

OK, you meant grinds not edges. See here for an explanation of grinds The straight razor - Straight Razor Place Library .

Bob

Yeah, I think the reason he called it 'edges' was because of DD's different names. Goldedge, Satinedge, Wonderedge,

Really looking forward to it arriving in the mail. Heard nothing but good about DDs.

DD is a very old outfit that sold many many different models over time. When the company changed hands the last time they branded the razors with edge as the last part of the name. DD never made anything they were a barber supply outfit and who made their razors is the mystery of the century.

Who made the ducks...
I may be way off here but the dubl ducks and some dovo models are very similar...

Originally Posted by markbignosekelly

Who made the ducks...
I may be way off here but the dubl ducks and some dovo models are very similar...

Ducks never looked so good in black shoes!

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

[...]who made their razors is the mystery of the century.

Actually, no, it isn't. They were made by Dovo in Solingen. Same as Beau Brummel and Otto Deutsch.

llalm is spot on with his observation that a Dovo 25 and a Dubl Duck Goldege share the same blades. "Same blanks", more precisely. If you compare real NOS 25s and their DD sisters, you will find that the scales look exactly the same, too (except, of course, for the bolsters). The "cracked ice scales" were originally bright white and are among the worst scales ever made. Just for the record, in the past, as today, there were companies specialising in OEM parts, among them scales.

And before another "but where is the proof????????" "discussions breaks loose, riddle me this:

Hint: there is no riddle. None at all.

Aww cute! Dovo and Dubl Duck made a baby for export to Syria.
الموس الاصلي

Quite cute, indeed.
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DD had razors made for them by many manufacturers over their history. This includes manufacturers in the U.S and Germany and France. They also sold razors made by well known outfits with those outfits names on them and the DD logos too.

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

DD had razors made for them by many manufacturers over their history.

I hate it when people do that, but do you have any proof to back up that claim? I'm not being obnoxious, simply curious. Because when a former Dovo employee who's been with the company for decades tells me they made them, I tend to believe him.

Also, "make" can be a tricky term when it comes to razors. Like today, there used to be a manageable number of forging dies. The blanks were stamped with whatever the manufacturers ordered, ie more than one manufacturer used blanks from the same die. For example #14 (or #13, #12...) blanks. Then the razors were ground, polished, and sharpened by "a workforce". For values of "workforce" ≅ "people who were in the employ of the manufacturer". This may have meant "staff", "outsourced staff", or "freelancers" (including women, children, OAPs, and invalids, of which there were many, and who worked in Kotten).

Meaning, "brand X" may well have been made by "manufacturer Y", or even "Z knows whom". Which makes statements about brands, or models, which were across decades, ever so slightly absurd.

In the end, it doesn't really matter. Hess made fantastic razors - every bit as good as a Dovo 25, or a Dubl Duck. And Hess razors were positively, and provably, made in the US. If I had to wager a guess, I'd say from Solingen blanks, but that is just conjecture.

But yes, until proven otherwise, it is safe to assume that Dubl Ducks were made by Dovo. Unlike today, Dovo was an extremely well regarded manufacture, so Dubl Ducks having been made by them is actually an argument for buying them, not against.

A potential argument against buying them is purely anecdotal: "Those were for export, so we had apprentices make them until they were good enough at it to produce for the home market." And, "we made them by the tens of thousands, working by the piece. We worked so fast, we literally threw them into boxes to be finished by somebody else."

Nice razors still, except for the cracked ice scales. Those are atrocious.