And also new here :p
saw a few links pointed here and decided to check it out. I'm going into Kamisori territory after failing using a straight
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And also new here :p
saw a few links pointed here and decided to check it out. I'm going into Kamisori territory after failing using a straight
How did you fail at a straight? A Kamisori probably isn't much different than a heavy wedge
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Originally Posted by jkcerda
Almost any failure of a straight I can think of would be the same with a kamisori. If anything a kamisori would be less forgiving of some
Short, fat, bald, and ugly plus confused. Yep a straight edge razor is a straight edge razor, you failed with a straight for the same reason most new guys do, you haven't been at it long enough. It's called experience and you will need more to learn, and the Kami is a different tool to maneuver. Plus chances are you haven't learned stropping or taking the first few shaves slow.
So sow down and learn what you have, throwing money at it expecting different results won't get you there. Tc
I'm curious why it was a fail too. Perhaps you need to figure out what went wrong in order to to be able to go forward. Tell about your straight experience and perhaps we can help your path forward.
Did somebody call ? :shrug:
tried it a few times & simply did not like it, hat it professionally honed and still did not like it. been using the Feather artist club for a while and that works fine, recently I found an awesome shavetter (Crown King) and for the first time I was able to do face and head with just that blade, before I had to finish up with a cartridge as the irritation got to be just too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by rodb
I KNOW it's me and not the blade.
I tried different angles and simply gave up. already letting the blade go on E-flay, going to try Kamisori and if that does not work I'll just stick to the Crown King as that thing has is working well for me, much better than the feather artist club.Quote:
Originally Posted by RezDog
I have about 8 shaves under my belt with my asymmetrical (traditional) grind Kami, and it took me until now to get an irritation free shave. It really does take some getting use to. I find laying it flatter to my face helped a lot. If your not getting good shaves from a traditional western ground straight, your going to have an even harder time with an Asymmetrically ground Kamisori. Just my opinion.
I admit I did not want to keep trying after a few tries, the feather has worked for me decently so that made me want to try Kamisori.Quote:
Originally Posted by HARRYWALLY
I am probably the worst human in history with regards to muscle memory. Throw one little kink into any action and it screws me up. I've played handball for over a decade and if I take a month off, I have to do some serious practice just to get close to where my skill was beforehand. I've been using wedges/shavettes for the past 2 months or so. I went back to a hollow ground (That I have used and owned for a long time) and totally biffed it. The next shave I really slowed it down and consciously watched my angles, wasn't until the end of that shave that I started to get my groove back. It sounds like you really want straights to work and that is good. BUT, you will have to suffer through some sub-par shaves. In time, you'll get the hang of stretching the skin, getting the angles right, stropping and achieving good shaves. As all motorcyclists know, it's the journey not the destination.
Yea… not the same…
Where in California are you?
in Hell, otherwise known as fontana :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Euclid440
the artist club spoiled me. for some reason it was EASY to get a good shave with it, the one exception was being able to completely do my head with it, I was getting irritation ATG with the feather in just one pass, with the Crown king I am able to do ATG up to 3 times before the irritation starts. only trouble area with ANY including cartridge is my neck area, I am never satisfied at the results there.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinnermint
here is the Crown king.
http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/028...g?v=1455917192
So, you can't do ATG with a feather blade in the artist, but you can do 3 ATG with the feather blade in the crown king?
sorry, let me see if I can clear it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinnermint
with the feather artist club using feather blades I can do 1 pass ATG, 2 is really pushing it. the only other blade I can use on the feather are injector blades it seems.
with the Crown king I use Israeli persona red blades, not feather blades.
I do find the feather to be easy to maneuver, still getting used to the crown king but that thing is rather forgiving.
That Crown King looks pretty cool!
For my face I get more irritation from a Shavette than a straight.
I would guess that even though your edge was pro honed, maybe it wasn't completely good or you might have tweaked it stropping. Beginners have no point of reference what sharp and shave ready actually is, that's one of the biggest problem we see here.
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Originally Posted by jkcerda
I did not strop it, blade passed the HHT, I know I am the problem, I gave up quickly on it , it is not the end of the world, Kamisori's are next if if that does not work I'll just stick with the feather & crown king.Quote:
Originally Posted by rodb
Reminds me of my ill spent youth, Mad Magazine of the 70's, and a song parody to the tune of "The Girl From Ipanema" started off: “Short, and fat, and bald, and ugly, the guy from Jersey City's loaded . . . “
Can't believe I found it online:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfZu_kzn3sI
Well it is all about finding what works best for you. It is after all your shave Zen you are seeking. If you have something that is all that then perhaps sticking with it is a pretty good plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by jkcerda
As I recall there is a big difference between replaceable blades and not so much the handle they go in. And having said that a straight should shave just as well (most of us think better) than a replaceable blade. I went through the blade thing playing around with a double edge.
If you target a Kami make sure you get a western grind. Traditional s are made for a barber to use with one hand and so one side has a different angle on the edge if any at all.
Sounds like your learning fine, just short on patience :<0)
Picking up a kenwa Kamisori and I have a traditional one on the way . Short on patience is spot onQuote:
Originally Posted by 10Pups
Well I suppose that would make for a very good reason you did not get along with your straight. They way I see it straights are all about patience and subtle differences. As long as you are happy...
The general rule of thumb is 100 shaves before you get proficient with a straight, patience is a virtue sometimes. Best of luck with the Kami, does it arrive shave ready?
If you are short on patience and have a system that already works for you why change it?
It is supposed to be. Hope it is as I am not ready to hone yetQuote:
Originally Posted by Grazor