I have a naniwa super stone 12k. Do I need anything else to refreshen my straight razor that was professional honed?
I have a naniwa super stone 12k. Do I need anything else to refreshen my straight razor that was professional honed?
That should be plenty. Not many laps needed nor pressure. Very light strokes, then strop and shave. That is a great stone.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrendanWA
Just a strop.
Thank you, gents. Looks like I am in the clear for now. :beer1:
as a follow up question. I bought the dovo black ebony Bismarck razor from Lynn Abrams's site (not sure if I can mention specific sites on here) and he professionally honed it for me. This razor has the gold on the spine. Is it a given that he taped the spine to prevent the gold from spine from getting a little wear when he honed it? Thanks.
First and Foremost, Lynn Abrams owns this Site along with Straight Razor Designs. As far a 'other sites' I for one refrain from mentioning them out of respect to Lynn.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrendanWA
From the picture at SRD it looks as if there isn't any 'gold' on the Side of the Spine only on Top. So it's doubtful that tape was used.
With that said please hold off as I have an email in to a good friend who is only about a short distance away from you (about a 20 minute drive from Portland). He's not only an excellent honer but a good teacher.
I highly recommend that you wait for one on one help either from my friend or at the Seattle Meet next month. However if you insist on having a go on your own, Please use One Layer of 3M #700 black plastic tape. The 700 is much better than the Made by the C. H. Ina crap sold most everywhere.
While Glen is using a barbers hone here's a very good video to explain what 'touching up is':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP-GUeN_yBs&t=139s
I hope this has been of some help.
Cudarunner, thank you and I am going to hold off. That's a nice gesture. Appreciate it!
Thank you for displaying something that most newbies can't seem to grasp and is 'In my opinion' the #1 most Important item needed when learning how to use and maintain a straight razor and that is; PATIENCE!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by BrendanWA
A perfectly honed razor can have the edge damaged by just improper stropping. The amount of damage that can be done on a hone is a 1000 times worse and much harder to correct!
hehehe with that said I had a razor sent to me for honing but looking at the blade I didn't feel that it needed it so I gave it a good stropping (100 on cloth and 200 on leather) and it shaved fine. So I sent it home and told the owner what I'd done. Seems that he was so afraid that he'd turn the edge with too much pressure while stropping that he'd only been stropping the spine and not the edge. So there is a point of diminishing return on both sides.
Again thanks for holding off. Even if my friend is available to help I still highly encourage you to make that Seattle Meet Next Month!!
Ditto on Roy's (cudarunner) advice. Be sure to meet up with someone to get some one-on-one mentoring before you give honing a go. You will save yourself from making the basic mistakes, trust me.
And that 12k Naniwa is a great stone by the way. You will love using that hone when you get the chance!
Mark, since you chimed in about One on One I hope you don't mind me posting this video of you and Glen when Glen was teaching you how to hone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedster
I find that it really shows how very simple things that a newbie misses that are indeed very important.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxrs5kFkmJg
(Was it really so many years ago that the two of you sat down together for the lesson out in the boonies of ID? :shrug: :w)
Great idea, Roy. That's exactly why Glen made the video, so he could have me make all the mistakes that beginners will want to see and avoid (typical honing videos skip that part usually). The cost of Glen's valuable mentoring was the making of this video. That experience made me more nervous than an interview or public speaking...not only having Glen watching me across the table but that darn camera going as well.
At least I didn't cut myself taping that first razor. ;)
It sure was a while back...still had some decent hair atop my head back then. Now, not so much. :p
My friend, you sure didn't look nervous, if you were, you hid it well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedster
Something that newbies need to learn from this (even though it's kind of a mirror image) is that by one on one 'they' (the newbie) can stop the more experienced person and say; "Hey, could you do that again, I didn't see what you did" Where in your case Glen could see what had happened and then have you correct it.
I'll Preach it till I die and that is 'One on One Learning' is the Best Way of Learning!
Hi Brendan,
'Cuda mentioned you could use a hand with learning to keep the edges edgy. I have a strong bias that favors guys getting together for such learning. I'd be happy to help if you'd like. The other way to rocket sled the learning curve is the regional meet-ups. 'Can't say enough good about them. I drove 7hrs each way a few yrs back. 'Don't regret it a bit.
I did notice that 'patience' is in your arsenal. That puts you head & shoulder above most - including myself. You're gonna do fine with your edges. If I don't get back to look for PM, have Cudarunner throw a rock my way. 'Happy to help.
Hi Brendan,
I will mirror what Cuda and pinklather have stated about face to face meetings. We are having a mini meet in downtown Seattle July 15th. I sent you a PM with more details. Let me know if there is anything we can do.
Matt
Really appreciate the videos and advice. Hoping to meet up with pinklather since he's close to where I live.
PM fired back, Brendan. 'Hope your day is treating you well.
On 'is the 12' sufficient - short answer is yes, but if you find it takes some learning for it to work by itself - don't be surprised. You'll probably be a much faster study than I was, but it took me months to learn what 'no pressure' really means. The other thing to know about having only a finisher is that you *can't* let the edge dull very much or you'll need a more coarse stone to get the edge ready for the 12k.
That Nani is a *very* nice stone. 'Love mine - thanks to a bit of prodding from the honorable (if sneaky) Cudarunner. :) I'd be perfectly happy shaving w/ Nani 12 edges the rest of my life.
Hehehe I thought of telling the tale about pinklather and his love of the Naniwa 12K for all to see and how it happened--but I will refrain/Unless permission is given. :w :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by pinklather