After a wonderful post by FloorPizza I went back to the hones.
It took over an hour on the 5k and and hour the 12k to get an edge that shaved my leg without skipping and being able to shave the stubble on my face.
50 hits on the leather and the result. A near BBS with two passes and my off hand is better and I do not have the rough patch on my right cheek and jaw. :y
That 8k will be needed after all. I skipped the linen. I am now afraid of it.