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I've searched quite a bit for a definition or example, but haven't found anything to explain what hone wear looks like. I understand what it is but I'd like to see some pics showing examples. I can't tell if some razors are supposed to have a certain look or if they are worn. Any examples would appreciated.
It's the way the steel is worn down after honing. You'll see it lots on eBay; razors with pronounced frowns, razors with much thinner toes than heels, and razors evenly honed but down to like 3/8" in size or less.Quote:
Originally Posted by burns420
You'll also notice wide flat areas along the spine as well.
Hone wear is essentially the wear taken on by a razor through honing. You will see flattened spines, uneven spines & bevels, frowns and sometimes smiles, although smiles are generally by design.
Here is a picture of a razor with moderate hone wear. Notice how the spine appears to be somewhat flattened, from what otherwise would be a relatively sharp angle for this model of razor.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_P5J023HhWok/S0...0/IMG_9119.JPG
Now, take a look at this razor which has virtually no hone wear at all. Notice how the spine is shaped as original.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_P5J023HhWok/S0...0/IMG_9148.JPG
Also, when determining hone wear, the bevel should be taken into account. Unless a razor has had some corrective work done on the edge, a blade with moderate - heavy hone wear will generally have a wider bevel. Wheras one with none - mild hone wear, the bevel should be quite small.
Hope this helps...
Thanks sapito. I was looking for a pic because it's hard to explain without one.
I also found this gem with major hone wear posted in this thread:
http://straightrazorpalace.com/aucti...ight-wear.html
http://straightrazorpalace.com/attac...r-auction1.jpg
if I may borrow from the previous post, this may help illustrate what he has already said
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Usually, the most tell-tale thing will be obvious at the spine like shown in red
Thanks Del1r1um, I did not think to put that circle there :D
not at all, thanks for the good picture examples... helps a lot
Thanks everyone. That's pretty well what I figured, it's just that some spines are so evenly worn I couldn't decide if that was how they came where as others are more obvious. So if an otherwise hood razor has hone wear on the spine, should I stay away or is it not so bad to have if it's even on the spine and the edge has a strAight bevel?
Hone wear is not a bad thing. It is a normal occurence that will eventually happen to all razors when honed without taping the spine.
Here is a decent example of something that you would want to avoid: Bad Hone Wear
That razor has a lot of uneven hone wear, and also a slight frown. You would not want to pick that up and expect great results without lots of experience in fixing those issues, and especially not at that price.
However, razors with hone wear such as the Wade & Butcher pictured above, are acceptable levels of hone wear. There are good and bad hone wears. The W&B above is normal/good hone wear. The linked razor here in this post, is not good hone wear. Keep an eye out for the telltale signs of good and bad hone wear and you will be OK.
Or it could be a new clothing line.....
Maybe not :beer2:
Actually this would be an example of what to stay away from. The flattening of the spine at the heel is so large and uneven with corresponding relatively small and uneven bevel at that part, that it means the razor is either terribly ground, very incompetently honed, or warped. This is the kind of W&B I'll be very wary of going for since their quality is so inconsistent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del1r1um
Hone wear will also occur on the bevel when a razor is taped. The bevel will get wider over time.Quote:
Originally Posted by sapito318
I am not a fan of purchasing razors with hone wear and look for minimal to none when I am buying a razor. From a stand point of shaving, most that have an acceptable or minimal amount of hone wear that is relatively the same on both sides of the razor can be honed without too much problem and continue to be serviceable forever. It really boils down to whether you want a great looking razor that shaves or a very worn looking razor that shaves. Pocket book can play a big part in this decision.
Have fun,
Lynn
By G-man definition :)
Good hone wear is on the stone
Bad hone wear is on the spine
Yes, yes, Thank You,,,, shows at 4, 6, and 8pm :rofl2::rofl2:
Hmm... Well, after thinking about it maybe "good" is not the correct word to use. Probably something more like "OK" or "acceptable"? The W&B pictured definitely has some hone wear, however considering the size it is still w/in range of a "reasonable" amount, IMO. Obviously the razor has seen some use, but is still quite servicable. Of course, if the blade were smaller, that amount of hone wear would not be desirable.Quote:
Originally Posted by gugi
I guess what I am trying to convey, is that a lot of beginners are thwarted by the "dreaded hone wear" and would pass up an otherwise excellent shaver, where "light/mild/heavy/ hone wear" is mentioned by an honest seller. Hone wear will happen eventually, whether it be the spine or the edge from a taped spine. IMO it is mostly aesthetics. A razor with a reasonable amount of (even) hone wear can still be an excellent shaver, aesthetics aside.
Another example ...... :eek:
Now that's just a shame.... :gaah:Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyHAD
Indeed! And an excellent example of uneven hone wear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del1r1um
Not only that, but that's about 150 years worth of hone wear :(Quote:
Originally Posted by sapito318
