Finally starting to get it :)
Howdy
Well as some may recall I am battling away with this honing dealy on my Gotta, well I finally appear to have cracked it, I went throught the pyramid again and then finished up on the 12k.
100 Fabric
110 Leather
and then the test shave, not as close as usual, but only slightly rougher, and only to the touch, oh and I had to clean up my sideburns with the DE but I think that's mostly due to not so great as usual prep and the fact I aint so used to the blade with, but here it is I'm finally at a point were a razor honed by my chubby fingers holds an edge and shaves well, and I have officially added it back to my 2 razor rotation :D
That all being said I have to say thank you to the good people here, for without your patience and guidance I'd still be knocking to rocks together, trying to find fire as it where lol.
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