I don't even know where to begin..

:banghead::mad::cry:

So we had purchased a house... once closed then of course comes going into the house and taking care of any upgrades, repairs, pest control (this was an abandoned house since 2007), ect... During this time I was eyeballing the new Master bathroom.. It was HUGE... dual sinks... nice area for me to have some nice shaving time.. even put up my brush holders and installed a small in the wall lock cabinet in my corner to put my razors in and not have to worry about my kiddos getting into them...

After the upgrade and what not then it was my wife's turn, she spent the very next weekend installing the cabinet liners, and taking care of all the stuff that she wanted to do.. THEN the big day.. time to finally move in.. a little over three weeks after closing..

This was the DAY.. we had it all planned out.. pack the Uhaul (with a few friends help) pack the cars with delicate stuff, and trucks with things that didn't fit, then move it all over... get as much unpacked as possible (take care of essentials like beds, kitchen, and of course the BAAAATTTHHHROOOMSS.. After sweating all day and fighting the heat and storms I was REALLY looking forward to getting a nice hot shower and shave.. I knew where everything was (at least I thought I did), so once everything was unloaded, the essentials were taken care of, I went directly to the bathroom to look for my box... no where to be found.. :thinking: looked all over the place.. then I found it.. :rock: open it up.. and....Jewelry.. I just stared at it for a minute then looked at the side where I wrote SHAVING STUFF FRAGILE... so my wife walks up and says "Oh... I needed a small box for my Jewelry so I put the stuff in it into a Kroger bag it had a wooden box to protect it I didn't think it would get hurt... I was speechless.. but then thought to myself.. "ok.. no biggie" so where is the bag.. we hunted and couldn't find it.. I was thinking Oh man every one of my straights are in there maybe I left it at the other house.. We aren't too far away so I drove back to the house.. Once I turned on the country Highway I happen to notice a kroger bag in the middle of the opposite lane... little bit of denial... I though to myself no way can that be it... but as us guys go we have to be curious.. I turn around and pull off to the shoulder... once clear (and in that time quite a few trucks and cars ran this bag over) I ran for it and grabbed it.. I hear the klinking... I didn't want to look into the bag but I did.. :dropjaw: all of my straights are in there.. plus my brushes and the wooden cigar box I stowed them in.. The box was crushed.. every scale was craked or smashed, my tweezerman mangled, and the boar hair with a plastic handle didn't make it either... and all but two blades were broken (how in the heck does THAT happen) and the other two the edges had chunks out of em..

Yeeeaaaa.. I was furious.. After cooling down I went home and asked how it ended up on the road and apparently the stuff that was just thrown into bags were put on my brothers truck with the chairs.. "Well they were JUST razors, it can't be THAT big of a deal just get new ones" was the response when I turn red in the face... Changed her tune once I told her how much the 8/8 Filarmonica and the Wade & Butcher Wedge cost.. Not to mention the time I spent on restoring 3 of em, the one I bought here and then there is the First straight I had ever made..

So the moral of this one? Even just something as simple as moving your stuff can be a very BIG rookie mistake.. I should have just put the box into my own car.. or better yet took them over when I took the computer, the PS3, and TV.. I just didn't think that would happen..

Ok.. time to go and look for at least one good replacement so I can start shaving again. At least my strops and honing stones didn't get smashed... those came over with my tools, inside my toolbox. If anyone has a suggestion for a cheaply priced decent razor please let me know, after putting money into the house I don't think I am going to be getting a filarmonica or Wade & Butcher anytime soon...

I'm shedding a tear for you now :gaah:

I don't know how you didn't go over the deep end. I would have had a full on fit! Infact I feel like having a fit for you right now! I'm sorry that happened to you, that's a total bummer.

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I don't know how you didn't go over the deep end. I would have had a full on fit! Infact I feel like having a fit for you right now! I'm sorry that happened to you, that's a total bummer.

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You aren't the only one. I'm a little pissed off myself and its not even mine.
You have the patience of Job my friend.
I will cry for you.

Oh my, what a horrid story. I feel your loss :( On the other hand - I totally lost focus here for a second - big congratulations on your new house! And one with great man-cave space as well! I'm sure that will be great, once you get some replacement gear in stock. Best of luck.

Now THAT is a guilt trip you are going to have to try very, very, very hard to avoid putting your wife through. She screwed up. You have a right to be mad. You have a right to blame her. Then you have to move on. Good luck with that!

Congrats on the new house. We're closing on Friday and no one is touching my razors or hones or tools.

Oh, and you can make it pretty clear what you are expecting for Christmas this year!

Admitting at the time how much you are spending on razors, is not entirely without its advantages.

OH the pain, OH the agony....

In my last move I lost my only strop
it was bought new in 1972.....

I still do not have a strop as good but
I have seven...

Do visit the classified...
Do watch the antique shops.

I have just two words for you. Justifiable homicide.

Yep I would kill her...with the shards of those razors and with tears in me eyes...

Better use that guilt trip well brother.


Mick

:banghead: :dropjaw: :banghead: :chop: :banghead:

Your story made me sick in the pit of my stomach. My condolences. I really am "sorry for your loss." I am both amazed and inspired by your reaction to this tragedy. You are handling it much better than I would. When I have problems, one of my close friends constantly reminds me to ask myself, "Twenty years from now, will this really matter?"

In the long view, it is only things and your relationship with your wife is more important than material possessions (But, I do wonder what her attitude would have been if the situation was reversed and it was her crushed jewelry on the highway because of you).

I hope you can find an 8/8 Filarmonica and a W&B wedge during this coming year at a good price. I know all of us will be thinking good thoughts your way.

Just to make me feel better, I would post a "To Do" list on the bathroom mirror and then checkoff the items.

TO DO:
1. Buy 8/8 Filarmonica
2. Buy Wade and Butcher Wedge
3. Buy a Simpson Silvertip Brush
4. Buy a Thiers-Issard 7-day Razor Box
5. Commission one new razor from (?)
6. Etc.

I hope you enjoy the new house and I hope things only get better from this point on.

The lesson here is if something is much more important to you than anyone else, do it yourself - if you're not prepared to accept all the consequences of a decision, don't make it!

Commendation on keeping it together and not going ballistic on your wife, that's a big win in the circumstances.

Putting a guilt trip on her seems small potatoes by comparison with homicide, and if she is a fair-minded woman, worrying about that is probably a bit like shoving a horse through the stable door after it is bolted, or something. She must feel pretty bad already.

Psychiatric opinion is that you aren't suffering from the illness of clinical depression when you actually do have something to be depressed about. No doubt the same applies to guilt.

I have noticed a lot of good will on this site, and I have learned a lot from reading posts and the wiki. pm me your address and i can mail you a w.h. morley and sons rattler that could be made to shave again with little work, or from the looks of it an easy restore. some hone wear, but every one here says that just means it was a good shaver.
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Shaking head.
Really can't say more then was already said, strange how your misfortune has all of us feeling our pain sorta like a solid nut shot.

And congrats on your new house hope you can choose a nice room for a man cave.

Peace.


In the absence of light don't pray for a miracle use night vision.

Sell her jewelry to buy new razors...Sell the house to buy an RV and surf board...

Don't know if you've ever done the 'get-out-of-jail-free-card' thing, but I'd call this a 'perma-card' event.

My condolences....

Wow. Just wow.
What a truly horrid story.
So now there are two persons in your household feeling bad about this sad turn of events.

You are obviously a bigger man than I, Mrs. Birnando would have been in so much trouble had she pulled something like this on my shaving stuff;)
(happily, all of it is insured)

And that reminds me, any chance you have some kind of insurance policy covering some of this?
Many people have traveling and inventory-insurances that could possibly cover something like this. I know mine does.

Good luck hunting down your dream razors again.

Oh, If you'd like, I could ship you a Filarmonica EPBD #14.
It has some wear to it, but if you want it, just PM me, and I'll send you a few pics of it, so you can decide if it's something you'd like.

Dude, Not the Fily and W&B? I mean, What's the odds of that bag, falling off the truck? I truly would have lost it...Most woman don't think like we do, she clearly didn't understand the importance of your gear. I'm sure it wasn't delibrerate. Woulda, Shoulda, Coulda, Don't beat yourself now. Move on. Make the list on the bathroom mirror for now as DLB Stated, Replace the Fily and W&B when you can. I know both are expensive razors, believe me, I know the costs incurred when buying a house, it's not just the house, it's all the other stuff... Set your snipes, or your Ebay alerts. Keep you eyes peeled on the forum for those razors on our classifieds. I know I'll be thinking of you when I see one. If I come across any locally cheap, there yours...Thanks for sharing, I'm sure a lot of members will learn from this. I know I have.

Oh man! I couldn't believe it! I was reading in horror!

All the things that could have been done to prevent this are streaming through my mind, but none of them matter at this point. I feel so bad for you, for your wife, and for your son and the great inheritance he just lost!

As was stated already, your relationship with your wife is more important than a thousand razors, and kudos to you for not going nuts on her. I'm sure she feels horrible. The hard part will be forgiving and moving on. Maybe you could make some artwork out of it. Lay the Kroger bag down, lay out the broken shards of razors cut down in their prime, and cover them with epoxy. Then again...maybe that would just immortalize a day that's best forgotten.

Best of luck on your razor search. If you haven't checked out Larry's site I'm sure he'd cut you a deal knowing what your story is (besides his prices are in that low budget range).

Finally, Congrats on the house closing! And same to Ron. The wife an my house (selling) closes mid July. PTL!

Peace,

Well I hope at least one of the people that ran over that bag got a flat tire. You have to get some satisfaction.

After reading all the replies, I have to say you can't beat a lifestyle and community like this one.. I also liked reading the words of encouragement... After getting off of the computer last night from doing extensive searches for a replacement to get started shaving again (my beard and head are quite grizzly.. it's been a little while since I have shaved).. I think I finished off the final stages of grief.. I am like a few of you guys where yes i am horrifically mad, but you have to ask yourself what is more important.. In almost all aspects I have a very understanding and supportive wife.. and to be honest she really didn't understand the expense and time that went into my straights.... of course me talking about straights to her is like off the episode of scrubs when the women would start talking about shoes and the guys would fade off and tune them out.. Of course I am more of Dr Cox Type but I don't think screaming out "SILK PANTIES" would bring her back.. Oh I have digressed..... Anyway I went back to my cave and looked at the pieces in the box and as much as I wanted to lust JB weld, duct tape, and glue everything together.. I just had to let it go.. ALTHOUGH.. I took a good look at the yellow ornate scales and they were actually repairable!... So I took the rest of the pieces and not kidding buried them in a ziplock with desiccant under the house.. kinda like a time capsule I guess... But I took the ornate scales and worked on them... they were actually only split at the area where a wedge would normally be.. so I figured flatten them out and I would just make a wedge to go with it.. buffed it all out and tada...

So I wake up this morning and on my night stand was a card (I am sorry for your loss hahahah kinda made me laugh) another card saying I love you.. a cup of coffee and a fresh homemade (hers are like cinnabon) cinnamon roll.. So I called her at work and she said she was sorry.. and that she should have made sure that my stuff was safe.. Heheheh there were a few mentions of guilt trip.. and the ticket for a christmas gift.. Well she said that if I wanted to I could replace the ones that were expensive if I wanted to.. (as nice as that sounds the only way this could be done is if she worked over time a lot and I just don't see the point in that because then we wouldn't be able to have family time).. So I told her no worries.. We will work towards replacing those, and I will just find a decent shaver for my face and a wedge for my head..

Yea I could have blown up.. and made a huge deal out of it.. but I gave up that temper when I finished pushing boots in the Navy.. It's kinda like going ballistic when your 16 month old breaks your favorite coffee cup just because he was excited that he drank from Daddy's bigboy cup and dropped it by accident.. Heh.. yea that's what happened with me.. but in the end you just grit your teeth, smile and give him a hug for overcoming such an obstacle as drinking from something other than a sippycup.. and be glad that you have wonderful family that tolerates your eccentricities.. (of course clean up the mess though ahahah)

I honestly appreciate the encouragements... Also the offer.. but I am just the type of person that I can't in good conscience just take something with out paying for it..

My wife did try though.. after she got off work (was at the spine doc all day) she went to a few antique shops looking for another W&B or a filarmonica.. unfortunately not many of those here....

No more need to smuggle stuff though.. it's all out in the open and I also get to make another one for myself an will be able to get it better too.. on the bright side my wife collects slag glass and wants to go hit the antique shops further out this weekend.. The only worry I have is finding a wedge.. the one i got was pure pure luck off of ebay...

Nervin, I sent you a PM, did it get through?

I also want to thank those for the congrats on the house too.. It's an awesome house and after we looked at 6 of em and tried to sell each other on what we liked about the first ones.. we took one walk through and then turned to each other then said at the same time "I love it"..

1505 square feet.. a master bedroom the size of a living room.. with that great master bathroom too.. it appraised at something like 174K and we haggled it down to 110K.. Needed a little work but we have already done most of it.. and the next project is a patio... unfortunately the one it has is falling apart.. Next on the list.. Well that and getting my tools mounted for my shop.. :mexwave::rock:

Well, since I'm not getting a response I'll assume it didn't. I tried to link you to a Wade & Butcher full wedge I found on eBay. No scales but looked like it would be a good project piece that wouldn't need a huge amount of work to get "shave ready". I have no connection to the seller, it's just something I found and remembered this thread.

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After reading all the replies, I have to say you can't beat a lifestyle and community like this one.. I also liked reading the words of encouragement... After getting off of the computer last night from doing extensive searches for a replacement to get started shaving again (my beard and head are quite grizzly.. it's been a little while since I have shaved).. I think I finished off the final stages of grief.. I am like a few of you guys where yes i am horrifically mad, but you have to ask yourself what is more important.. In almost all aspects I have a very understanding and supportive wife.. and to be honest she really didn't understand the expense and time that went into my straights.... of course me talking about straights to her is like off the episode of scrubs when the women would start talking about shoes and the guys would fade off and tune them out.. Of course I am more of Dr Cox Type but I don't think screaming out "SILK PANTIES" would bring her back.. Oh I have digressed..... Anyway I went back to my cave and looked at the pieces in the box and as much as I wanted to lust JB weld, duct tape, and glue everything together.. I just had to let it go.. ALTHOUGH.. I took a good look at the yellow ornate scales and they were actually repairable!... So I took the rest of the pieces and not kidding buried them in a ziplock with desiccant under the house.. kinda like a time capsule I guess... But I took the ornate scales and worked on them... they were actually only split at the area where a wedge would normally be.. so I figured flatten them out and I would just make a wedge to go with it.. buffed it all out and tada...

So I wake up this morning and on my night stand was a card (I am sorry for your loss hahahah kinda made me laugh) another card saying I love you.. a cup of coffee and a fresh homemade (hers are like cinnabon) cinnamon roll.. So I called her at work and she said she was sorry.. and that she should have made sure that my stuff was safe.. Heheheh there were a few mentions of guilt trip.. and the ticket for a christmas gift.. Well she said that if I wanted to I could replace the ones that were expensive if I wanted to.. (as nice as that sounds the only way this could be done is if she worked over time a lot and I just don't see the point in that because then we wouldn't be able to have family time).. So I told her no worries.. We will work towards replacing those, and I will just find a decent shaver for my face and a wedge for my head..

Yea I could have blown up.. and made a huge deal out of it.. but I gave up that temper when I finished pushing boots in the Navy.. It's kinda like going ballistic when your 16 month old breaks your favorite coffee cup just because he was excited that he drank from Daddy's bigboy cup and dropped it by accident.. Heh.. yea that's what happened with me.. but in the end you just grit your teeth, smile and give him a hug for overcoming such an obstacle as drinking from something other than a sippycup.. and be glad that you have wonderful family that tolerates your eccentricities.. (of course clean up the mess though ahahah)

I honestly appreciate the encouragements... Also the offer.. but I am just the type of person that I can't in good conscience just take something with out paying for it..

My wife did try though.. after she got off work (was at the spine doc all day) she went to a few antique shops looking for another W&B or a filarmonica.. unfortunately not many of those here....

No more need to smuggle stuff though.. it's all out in the open and I also get to make another one for myself an will be able to get it better too.. on the bright side my wife collects slag glass and wants to go hit the antique shops further out this weekend.. The only worry I have is finding a wedge.. the one i got was pure pure luck off of ebay...

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You are a good man. I feel humbled by reading this. We should all be lucky enough to have a good woman like yours. The fact that you've forgiven her so, shows not only your good character but the amout you love and respect this woman. If ever I find myself in a situation like yours, I hope to have the sound mind and good reason you have shown here. I truly hope you find your dream razor this weekend!

Good God! My heart goes out to you! I hope every member checks out this link about how men and women think differently!! I hope all will enjoy and I hope it eases your pain!
YouTube - ‪Mark Gungor Men's Brain Women's Brain EXTENDED mp4‬‏

sorry to hear of your hardships. i had kind of a similar experience with less expensive razors. i bought a house and started moving things and found my razors with chipped blades and cracked scales. but on the down side i do not have sweet man cave space.

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Nervin, I sent you a PM, did it get through?

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I finally got it.. Thank you.. I put it on my watch list.. It already looks like it's gonna go high though.. Worth a try.. Thank you.. sorry it took so long..

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I finally got it.. Thank you.. I put it on my watch list.. It already looks like it's gonna go high though.. Worth a try.. Thank you.. sorry it took so long..

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It's all good, things happen in cyberspace. ;)

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Good God! My heart goes out to you! I hope every member checks out this link about how men and women think differently!! I hope all will enjoy and I hope it eases your pain!
YouTube - ‪Mark Gungor Men's Brain Women's Brain EXTENDED mp4‬‏

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Hahahah good video.. how true how true..

Hervin,
I salute you for the fantastic attitude you have shown through all the adversity of losing your gear and the strength of the relationship that you obviously have with your wife.
I have only been married (third time) since November and, I know that my wife would feel bad if anything like that should happen to us. I hope I would handle it as philosophically, too.
Things have a way of working out.
Cheers,
Geoff

You have to judge the ways you could react by their results. Blowing up at her wouldn't have put any razors back together, and neither would laying violent hands on the slag glass. You don't know a marriage ceremony has really taken, if you accidentally make it all the way through on good times. It takes weathering a storm or two. Many would be superfluous, though.

Oh man, dude, that made me hurt like a kick to the jewels. I'm SOOOO sorry to hear that. You are definitely a much better man than I because I would have blown like Vesuvius. Here's hoping that you are blessed with a windfall of new stuff. And I must say, I hope the true impact of what happened settles in with your wife. My wife would have reacted the same way...well, at least until she saw my eyes glow red :)

Best of luck!!

Kudo's again on how you handled the situation. I've read mention on SRP several times of the "gentleman" quality that's upheld here. If you ask me, the true display of a gentleman is how he handles a situation like this, and I think you exemplified the ideal here.

@Roy, loved the video. Very true. I love my nothing box.

Peace,

Congratulations on keeping to the standard set by a gentleman. I've read somewhere that life is not about what happens to us, it is about our choices to things over which we have no control. The Force be with you.:D

Your goose is cooked. The next time you screw anything up (which is her call, by the way), she's going to expect the full treatment - new shoes, new jewelry, new car, whatever she wants.

enjoy your replacement razors while you can :gl:

Well it's another day gone by and my wife came home with a brand new tweezerman... Which was the only badger hair that I had.. Hehehe I just gave her a hug and thanked her... To respond to the "Gentleman" statements, you guys are definitely right.. I think a lot of people forget that even the gruffest of guys (believe me after pushing boot-campers and being out to seas year after year I am DEFINITEly salty) should still keep composure even if something bad happens to your stuff.. People will always make mistakes... some more than others.. some because they aren't thinking, others because they just didn't know.. Caledonian and anyone who has said it's not worth it, is right though.. no material thing is worth losing what's truly precious to us... Yea they are gone, but like everything else they are impermanent anyway... Us as collectors, users, RAD junkies spend a decent amount of our time trying to curb the affects of time on these blades, and if not for our TLC they would rust and fade anyway a lot quicker... The more I think about it, I started this thread more as a way to vent... but it turns out that it points out a few qualities that this community has... Camaraderie: Though none of you know me you touched base with the situation.. everyone gave advice, made suggestions, and even offered replacements.. that by far is awesome.. Another is rookie or not.. Mistakes happen.. and although Razors are our obsession they are nothing like the crown jewels in our lives.. (For us who are married with kids... well that just kinda speaks for it self.. ) Then there is being gentlemen.. (gentlewomen fall in this too.. you guys have your tempers too)... when you think of straight razor shaving, pipe smoking.. and such you think of guys sitting around with BBS chins and just talking.. (sadly I am too eccentric to fall into that category but I am like the old guy with his underwear on the outside of his pants that everyone just tolerates ahahahahah)... Either way... it's civility.. So I hope anyone who reads this definitely gets it.. This place is a great community.. and family is always first even if they or you mess up..

I wrote about my son and my coffee cup.. I had thrown away the pieces... didn't even think twice about it, but it was a cup from my first ship (which has been decommissioned for a while) and drank coffee in it since. But watching my son so excited over his accomplishment was worth more to me.. For fathers day my wife had hunted down that exact cup, and the ones made for the ship with shellback on it was impossible to find but she did it.... had I gotten upset.. she probably would have never even thought about it.. I did however have my sons name added to the cup under mine.. he uses it to this day...

Pushing boot-campers.. When I was doing that job I worked with two others. That was the point in my life that I learned there are three types of people.. Ones who are respected and trusted and when they are crossed the people who do it feel bad for doing it... second kind: Those who are feared and well who knows if they are trusted they are just too scary to even try... and when they are crossed most accept the consequences because they hate that person.. then there are the buddies.. they are liked, mostly not trusted and ran over any chance they get.. I watched one of my coworkers go nuts because he could never get control of the recruits, and the other could not get the recruits do anything other than the minimum.. I learned a lot from that job (even though I was being paid to be a bully)... but I had the highest rated compartment that session.... Also received some metals and what not too.. but the best part is people I pushed through hunt me down on facebook and tell me what a difference I made for them.. So it brings me to the quote in my signature.. the Sum of our experiences.. that was told to me in bootcamp.. because before the navy I was the buddy.. That Master Chief was so respected that when he walked in everyone paid attention.. when he talked all would listen.. if he gave advice.. well everyone took it.. I wanted that attitude.. Couldn't figure out what to call it, but I do now.. Gentleman is't some uppity snob holding doors for women, and nose far up in the air they would drown.. it's being the Respected and trusted person, with high integrity, is their own person, and does NOT have to try and impress anyone..

Seems I babbled.. i hope all of this made sense..

Thank you to everyone who posted and PMed me.. and to anyone who read this and went "Holy Cow"...