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So my always told me "there are no stupid questions only inquisitive idiots"
So here's the question, Rubbing my face against the grain i can still feel hair. This has always happened to me. With a cartridge i started doing three passes wtg, xtg,atg. The de will not suffer me to go atg, so i do two passes wtg and one xtg.
Is it normal with de to feel coarse atg?
It's typical for me. I can shave against the grain but the irritation isn't worth it. It can be done, with experience. I find with a super light touch I can do it one day, but not the following, due to irritation.
I can get a little closer with a straight razor though.
I guess everyone is different. I shaved yesterday with an SE and today with a DE and did all 3 passes including ATG. Just like with straights it takes a light touch, the right angle and a good lather to ged er dun.
Bob
You may find you can shave atg when you have more experience and better technique. Or maybe not. I never do a full atg pass, because I will get irritation and I don't care about that minor difference in closeness.
No matter what you shave with, you'll feel hair the most when rubbing your face atg. For example, my face always feels smooth rubbing in whichever direction I shave, but atg I will feel stubble. There was a time when I called this "directional BBS," but that never caught on.
Sorry about the confusion i was asking if you could feel your stubble running your hand against the grain after shaving with a de.
No, I personally can't, although I have a bit of OCD when it comes to that! When I'm done it's smooth in every direction, just like the straight. The price is irritation, so ATG might not be for everyone.
OK, yea I can still feel stubble running my hand ATG but very slightly. Always have.Quote:
Originally Posted by gunsandbibles
Bob
I´m with firefighter 2 on this..... if i feel any grain, its back to the sink. I will admit it still gives me a slight razorburn, especially on the right side of my face, but it gets better and better for each time. :) (less and less burn) When I go ATG i use "buffer" technique while i stretch the skin. even though some call it an advanced technique i find it rather easy to do YMMV (I still consider myself a newbie and only have about 8-9 DE shaves under the belt).
heres a link to the technique (and a couple of others) Advanced Shaving Techniques - YouTube
After I shave my son insists on checking for what he calls "bumpy" there have been only a handfull of times he hasn't found any stubble (always a little om the neck). I use short strokes and an exremely light touch, this has solved my leftover stubble/ razorburn issues.
Eric
If i shave atg with a straight I will feel smooth atg. It takes a pasted edge on a fine pasted strop to get there though, a coticule edge for example isnt enough.
I have a couple of areas where it takes extra work to get it all. Immediately under the jaw line on the right side but not on the left. Both left and right hollows around my wind pipe. They do require extra attention to get BBS but I can get there if I want to. With straight or a Merkur slant DE and a Feather blade.
I can always feel some stubble of I run my hand straight up.
I usually do two passes. After three I'm very closely shaven but can still feel something atg.
Directional bbs is a nice concept.
Michael
well I just got done with four passes (note to self time to change blades) wtg one xtg and one buffing atg... I can still feel atg stubble but my cheeks are super smooth wtg at least... and slightly razor burnt.
I think if I focus more on my chin and jaw line where I still have real stubble I will be happy. anyways I love the buffing technique now and Im starting to develop a feel for the J- hook thanks all.
I have to ask, when you feel stubble on your cheeks.... are you pressing hard against your skin? because in that case, I guess, you will always feel some stubble... unless off course, you slice your skin off below the hair follicles (and I will strongly advice against it, because it might sting :D)
with DE and straights we cut the hairs so they´re flush with the skin, ... (or very close to) so when you dig your fingers in, I believe you will always feel a little stubble.
I might be wrong, but the way I define a BBS shave, is when I run the backside of my hand against my face and only feel very smooth skin. (like a grandparent do with a child)
I just shaved about an hour ago and when I rub my hand vigorously all over my face I feel no stubble.
Hi, Gunsandblades,
My take on this is that it's VERY personal. Why? Because our beards grows at wildly different angles--not only in the sense that mine grows differently than yours, but that different areas of one's face feature differently-growing hairs (direction-wise and angle-wise).
So, it's very likely that there are parts of your face that you can easily shave against the grain, others that you can't. And chances are that these are not the same for me. So it's not a one-size-fits-all question. For instance, I can shave my cheeks against the grain, ditto with my neck and jaw-line--but I may very well forget about doing so with my chin and with my upper lip. Know your limitations. It's all a matter of the angles at which your beard grows.
Old-school barber pedagogy texts show that knowing and understanding the direction of the growth of a customer's beard is paramount. That's why--as I said--it's hard to give a universal rule about shaving against the grain, even about your own face. Angles vary between areas--and what you may be able to do (say) with your cheeks, you may be prevented from doing with another section of your shaving area.
Bottom line: know your growth, and know the sharpness of the angles at which your beard grows. And to top it all off, know how to stretch your skin, and how that affects the angle of your beard at the moment in which the blade meets hair.
Best of luck!!!!!!
Tom
For me, the skin is completely smooth when I'm done. I go back and touch up areas if there's even a slight feeling of stubble after applying aftershave.