Got a very nice Thater 4125 for Christmas. Love the brush so far but the instructions that came with it say not to face lather with it? Is there some reason for this? I don't understand. Thanks.
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Got a very nice Thater 4125 for Christmas. Love the brush so far but the instructions that came with it say not to face lather with it? Is there some reason for this? I don't understand. Thanks.
Brushmakers never want to get a brush back period. So, anything that may appear to deteriorate a brush they just tell you not to do.
I always face lather and have never had an issue with any brush.
Simpson has the disclaimer,is all B.S IMO
I face lather with my Thater, I don't think that it hurts it any.
Gentlemen,
A shave brush is supposed to . . . well . . . brush the face with delicious lather. I have face lathered for years and my brushes are still sweet and intact. Some use the brush in the paint brush mode and some in circular. Make mine circular with some added paint brush movements. The Thater silvertip is especially perfect for face lathering because of its solid backbone and silky soft tips.
My new Simpson's instructions said paint brush strokes only. I face lather and do what I like. Brush hasn't lost one hair.
I think there's face lathering and then there's face lathering. One where you build the lather on your face and the upper half of the brush, the other where you mash the brush in your face and go at it like it's a career. I could do the first, no way I would try the second. You've seen those old ('vintage') badger brushes with the hole right in the middle of the knot, right? No thanks.
As long as you're not too abusive and take care to rinse the brush carefully, I don't think it will be much of an issue in the long run. But personally, I bowl lather because I feel I can control the consistency of the lather much better and if a high quality brush maker of near hundred years of being in business advises me not to face lather with the brush they made, I'll gladly take the advice. I mean, what do they know?
But different strokes, free choice 'n all that.
Gentle swirls and painting strokes, a light massage with the very tips creates the best face lather..Quote:
Originally Posted by Pithor
I think brush makers are just doing a bit of CYA when advising no face lathering. Some people are in the habit of mashing the brush knot into their face almost flat to the handle in their version of face lathering. Makers probably consider that abuse in relation to warranties and would rather not deal with that.
Bob
I bowl lather simply because it is neater. I like face lathering, but always make a mess when I do so.
Whats the differance between making lather in a bowl with ribs to generate lather, and lathering on your face?
Reading what all of you have said still haven't made it clear to me why not to face lather. Do the manufacturers think that face lathering is more abusive than lathering in a bowl? Why would it? Sure on could abuse his brush by face lathering, but one might just as well do so in a bowl.
I think it creates knots, and wears the center of the brush out, a bowl is smooth, your face is not. Either way I've gravitated from the bowl to the scuttle to face lathering 99% of the time.
Personally I don't relly see much of a point in using a brush if I'm not suposed to face lather with it, sure, you can control the consistency in a bowl and the soaps and creams are fancier and better for the skin but if I'm not getting the exfoliating face massage from the brush, I might as well get some barbasol.
Just my take on the issue.
I was able to generate more, and 'better,' lather in a bowl at one time, than I could on my face. As time went on I returned to face lathering and found that one is as good as the other ....... if you know what you're doing. So now I can lather either way and get the results I am looking for. At one time I was stuck in the bowl ....... figuratively speaking .... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by pixelfixed
As has been posted earlier in this thread, the mfgs recommend 'painting strokes' and advise not to swirl or twirl the brush. It is indeed preemptive CYA IMO and IME.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ludvig
I have both bowl and face lathered swirling the brush in all cases, on face and in bowl, with no deleterious effect on the bristles yet. Talking multiples of years here with Simpson, Plisson, Rooney, Thater, Kent and others. Enjoy your brush ! :tu