Lather-eating boar brush

I recently bought a big boar brush (omega 48) but i have a few scores to settle with it :mad:. You see, the thing likes to eat my lather straight out of my shaving mug. I leave it and my soap (D.R.Harris) soaking during my shower. When I lather up in my cup, it makes lather all nice and amiable, but when I come back from stropping my razor, approximately a half of my lather has mysteriously disappeared and the brush is looking too smug for its own good. It only gets worse with time. Adding water and whipping lather like a man possessed further breaks the lather down until I have to dip to the soap again.

Do I have a possessed vampire brush or what is going on? I have no trouble keeping the lather with my synthetic body shop brush.

My boar brush needed a dozen lathers and a dip in near boiling water to break it in and make good lather. I recommend some elbow grease.

It's true. It is a well documented fact that boar brushes are much more stubborn than their badger counterparts and take much much longer to break in. That being said, once they are broken in, I love a good boar brush :D

Try hair conditioner. At one time I used to shave with conditioner and my boar brush is softer and makes a great lather now.

So this is a tendency of those boars not yet broken in?

I have used it maybe 10-20 times and I can see the hairs have already split at the ends (maybe, 6-8mm), but how far they usually split on a well broken boar?

Could it be that you're using too much water when you make the lather? I know that if I personally have a lather that vanishes very quickly, the first thing I'd do would be rinse it all away and try it again with almost no water, adding more until I reach the perfect lather point. The fact that adding water and whipping again makes it vanish even worse could suggest that there's too much water to begin with, and that the extra water is just making it worse.
My money's on too much water, personally, but I have no experience with boar brushes, preferring a nice badger brush myself, so it could still be the brush, I just have nothing to back that up with, whereas I DO have a bit of experience with the vanishing lather as a result of too much water.

I have a badger brush that my wife gave me years ago and I find the hairs too limp. I like the boar bristle better. I also add about 5 drops of glycerin after I work up the initial lather in my lather cup. That seems to stabilize the foam.

Hmmmm....well, for one thing, you should probably not leave the brush in the bowl. Water from your knot is very likely leaking down into the lather and over-wetting it.

For another, you are making a bit of a mistake if you think adding water and whipping more will fix disappearing lather...Boar brushes hold almost EXACTLY the right amount of water for building soap lather right after the soak. Work the brush into the soap well to make sure that all the water is released when building lather, then GO TO YOUR FACE. Your face is where lather belongs, not the bowl...Work the brush on your face a while, and you should have scads of rich, creamy lather. If you don't work that water from the knot into the lather, it'll come back and start to eat away the lather you've already built.

Thanks for the tips guys,

I shook the brush more vigorously and lathered rubbing the brush into the cup hard, and the lather did indeed improve. I guess my brush was too moist then.

I know the lather in the cup isn't important as such, but it does sucketh when I'm about to do a second pass and there's no real lather left. I only added water because whisping more did not restore the lather.

Unfortunately I have no clue where to purchase glyserin here. Might be difficult to obtain locally, but thanks for the tip.

I haven't tried badger brushes yet, but I'm quite fond of my synthetic brush which is softer and smaller than my boar. I might have to stock up on those.

I think I have to try starting with dryer brush and then adding water. Maybe then the water won't seep from the knot so much. I dunno why, but placing the brush anywhere else than the cup clashes with me.

Anyways, thanks for the tips again

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Unfortunately I have no clue where to purchase glyserin here. Might be difficult to obtain locally, but thanks for the tip.

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I bought my glycerin in the pharmacy section of one of the big regional grocery stores. I found it on the first aide aisle. You might even try Walmart or one of the chain pharmacies. I did ask one of the pharmacy techs which aisle it would be on and she really didn't know where it was but she took me over to the first aide aisle and she just happened to stop in the right spot and saw it on the top shelf. (Your results may vary :))

Badger badger badger badger

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Originally Posted by MinniesMate

I bought my glycerin in the pharmacy section of one of the big regional grocery stores. I found it on the first aide aisle. You might even try Walmart or one of the chain pharmacies. I did ask one of the pharmacy techs which aisle it would be on and she really didn't know where it was but she took me over to the first aide aisle and she just happened to stop in the right spot and saw it on the top shelf. (Your results may vary :))

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Well the thing is, I live in Finland, so no walmart for me. There are supermarkets here, but there's not so much pharmacy stuff in those. What is the intended uses of the glyserin you use (what is it marketed for)? Might be easier to find if I knew that... But thanks

I used to get mine from the Chemists/Pharmacy it was in with the sore throat remedies area

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I used to get mine from the Chemists/Pharmacy it was in with the sore throat remedies area

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Thats the one, cough remedy, all "Tickly" cough mixture is Glycerine and sugar pretty much

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Originally Posted by ursus

Well the thing is, I live in Finland, so no walmart for me. There are supermarkets here, but there's not so much pharmacy stuff in those. What is the intended uses of the glyserin you use (what is it marketed for)? Might be easier to find if I knew that... But thanks

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Sorry, I didn't notice your location. The bottle I have is labeled for skin healing. May have said for healing cuts.

Ok. I'll see if I can find them from the pharmacy.

FWIW, I have a badger brush that's OK, but I love my boar brush. For my likes, badger is too soft and after making a nice lather, it's like lathering with a feather duster. So, I tried a boar brush, a Vulfix that cost $8.00. Fantastic lather! Thick, creamy, and lasts.

The boar brush I have has a knot of 30mm and loft of 55/65mm and I have found it a bit too big for my tastes. My mainstay is a synthetic body shop brush that I like very much. A bit smaller but still lathers well. I've been wanting to buy a badger, but haven't chosen one yet, though I've been ogling semogues.

Ursus - I got my Glycerin from the local pharmacy - it's also known as glycerol, and can be used as a sweetener, humectant (humidity stabiliser for things like cigar humidors), or an emollient (skin moisturiser). Try amongst the dietary supplements and that sort of stuff - I'm pretty sure that's where I found mine. Or you could just ask the assistant - even easier for you.

ursus,

I had very similar issues as you when I transitioned from badger to boar (which I use quite a bit now). What I do that seems to work well is soak the brush with hot water while I shower. Then, I refresh the water in my scuttle take my brush and give it 3 little shake and go to my puck for 20-40 seconds loading the brush before either face lathering or moving to my bowl. It's rare that I need to add any more water during the lather building, and I generate enough lather for 4 or 5 passes.

In short, my guess is using more product will improve your results (in conjunction with the advice offered by the other gents).
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Thanks for the tips, everyone. Still haven't been to pharmacy yet. Quite a busy week. I guess bristles are something you grow into :). I'll try using the brush some more.

Have you tried being more aggressive with your lathering? I use a semogue 2000 lather monster and right when I think my lather is looking good, I whip it for an extra minute or so past that point and then I have plenty of well hydrated lather which will last. i think you need to use all the water in your brush and your lather problems should sort themselves.

Good Luck!