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Hi Group,
I just received a silver tip badger knot from Golden Nib and am getting ready to make my first brush.
Has anyone here made their own brush, and if so, can you tell me how to determine the diameter and depth of hole to drill in the handle?
Thanks in advance.
David
Just curious which knot you went with from TGN, I just received an old brush handle in the mail I plan on drilling out and replacing the knot.
The diameter to use is the diameter of the knot itself. You want that to be as tight a fit as possible. Use marine grade epoxy to secure since you don't have air or UV to cure it. The depth depends on how much loft you want; The deeper the more dense the brush will be.
I used a 24mm knot here: http://straightrazorpalace.com/works...ned-brush.html
I set the knot within half a centimeter of the edge and got a more relaxed loft on it.
I've made a few... what knot did you get (usually have to drill out 1 or 2mm plus or minus the knot size as they are not exact), and what do you have in mind for the handle, and how firm do you want your brush to be (this will affect your knot hole and depth).
Nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alembic
Whats the websites, where you buy knots without handles?
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Originally Posted by The_Pastor
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I use one of these.
http://www.choicediy.co.uk/images/481937.jpg
I just hold up knot to drill bit and see if its same size. It will make it slightly larger due to me not holding up handle 100% straight. To test depth I stop drilling and put knot in.
This is probably the wrong way, but its what I did.
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Originally Posted by C23
Yeah pretty much what I did too, I went way high tech though, and attempted to measure the knot first :banghead: then held up the drill bit behind the knot and said "Hmmmm yeah that should work"
I have restored three so far using the Nib Knots and have and old DD brush going next...Wanna get a few restores under my belt first before I try making one from scratch..
How do you guys remove knots i have these two really crappy brushes with good handles but cant seem to get the knot out , should i just reverse drill it out?
You wouldn't have any trouble Glen, can't wait to see what you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by gssixgun
One thing that I learned from Tony Turchetta is to take a scrap block of wood and drill a bunch of holes (all different sizes) with spade or forstner bits and mark each hole with the drill bit size... then you just take your brush knot and do test fits until you find the best size... takes all the guesswork out.
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Originally Posted by Del1r1um
HA !!! now that is almost cheating hehehehe
First trim the knot up using a knife or scissors. I would then drill it out using a bit smaller the the knot, start from the center and then work out. Can also use a dremel for clean up work on the knot.Quote:
Originally Posted by thewatermark
Hi timmy,Quote:
Originally Posted by timmy
I bought a 26mm silvertip badger knot.
David
claytor,Quote:
Originally Posted by claytor
When you say the diameter of the knot itself, do you mean the base, or somewhere up the tapered part?
So in the pic below, my terminology is the base is the brown/tan part holding the bristles together. That for my knot is a 26mm.
Thanks for the information.
David
I have drilled undersize and with a little whittling and a bit of filing on the base created a very tight friction fit with two brushes I made. This way there is no glue squeezing out which looks just awful imho.
I determined the size bit by direct comparison eyeballing
Ok, I'm with you so far, but how far up the knot beyond the base do you sink it into the handle. Some of the pics I saw on The Golden Nib website show a handle hole diameter that looks quite a bit bigger than the knot base being sunk into it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kevint
What we're saying is you don't actually measure that part, you fit it in...
Drill, fit, drill, fit, until you get it where you want it, is is actually an adjustment for the brush stiffness... The depth is variable just so long as you sink the base completely otherwise it looks like crapola...:rofl2:
Glen,Quote:
Originally Posted by gssixgun
Ah, thanks. So now I have to figure out how deep I want it based on performance and asthetics.
I would imagine that the smaller the hole and the deeper you sink the knot, the stiffer the brush will be. And of course, that is why the suggestion for a pre-drilled test board as seen below.
And the e-poxy will just fill the hole out up to the top of the handle but below the knot.
And of course, there is always the requirement to avoid the result looking like crapola! :D
BTW, Golden Nib sells a mandrel for turning the handle. It is about $5.00 and so I bought one. I don't know you would turn the whole handle without it. You can see it installed in a handle in the second and third pics below. It is just the mandrel, not the chucks or tap.
David
It can be done a few other ways... but I like the mandrel for turning... but then again, not all brushes need be turned :D there are many roads to a sweet brush!
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Is this just a solid piece of wood, or an actual handle?
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Originally Posted by salazch
That is for the solid dowel that you shape on your own.
Group,
First lesson learned. The polyester rod material for a shave brush handle is a material that easily fractures.
I went to drill the hole for the the knot, layed out ther center point, took a center punch to dimple the center point for the drill bit, and a huge chunk of material fratured off with a tap of the hammer. And there I stood with my jaw on the floor. Couldn't believe it.
So I bought a real buffalo horn rod for my next one.
I would not have had to use the drill press for this operation, but I have 4 sets of jaws for my lathe chuck, and they were all too small or too big. Otherwise I would not have had to mark the pilot and my have finished the brush handle.
David