California, the land of fruits and nutz:

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Originally Posted by pixelfixed

You can renew online in Kali also,BUT you have to do it within 60 days of expiration,am well over that.
No worrys, last time I renewed I was 5 yrs expired:(

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Hopefully you haven't been driving as that would've made you illegal, or if you will undocumented driver.

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Originally Posted by 10Pups

I had a thought the other day on this undocumented thing. (which is still illegal) If we kicked them all out in one week what would happen ?
First there are many things you would have to do yourself like mow your yard. For a little while anyway.
Next you would have to train your kids to mow the lawn like in the old days.
Then wages would go up, housing and rentals would drop so your kids could get their own lawn.
60% of HUD housing would be open for ? Where would all the money go that is paid out to the undocumented? Hmmm Vets benefits, Social Security ? Wouldn't need to pay much unemployment either.

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There are other things too - pay more for the groceries at the store and perhaps start eating or throwing away a bit less. A couple of years ago one state suddenly made it a bit too hard for illegal immigrants and large part of their produce rotted in the fields.

One thing I know is that when somebody works hard 60-80 hours a week, say picking produce, and still can't get out of poverty the moocher is probably the one who saves the 10c on their grocery bill, or the ones who capture the 80% overhead beyond the 20% production cost.

We already know that 47% of the americans are moochers and don't pay taxes - the illegals are 13 times fewer, so while they may be the straw that breaks the camel's back, blaming the last straw for all of the overloading seems a bit of a stretch.

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Originally Posted by pixelfixed

You can renew online in Kali also,BUT you have to do it within 60 days of expiration,am well over that.
No worrys, last time I renewed I was 5 yrs expired:(

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Sounds like my yearly sticker on my auto tag. I decided to go and put it on my Suburban the other day...it was 4 years out. I look in the glove box and had all the stickers...just never put them on!

That's probably because most places have plate scanners on the police cruisers, so as they drive around the computer takes pictures of the plates of the cars it passes by, processes the image to extract the the plate number, checks whether it's registered or whether it's flagged for anything and the cop gets involved only if this raises an alert.
The sticker is a carryover from the older system where the cops would have to manually check them but better technology has obsoleted that kind of low-skill labor.

Similarly, my street has a 24h parking limit and years ago they'd chalk the tire to the asphalt to verify if it has been moved the next day and if not issue you a ticket. Nowadays they just drive by and a computer calculates whether the car has been moved or not.

I think the best way to make a safe driver is to be illegal. Whether no license, insurance, etc. I think they tend to be pretty careful.

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Originally Posted by 32t

I think the best way to make a safe driver is to be illegal. Whether no license, insurance, etc. I think they tend to be pretty careful.

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You have no idea how true that is,No License,no insurance,junker car,They just walk away.

But wouldn't such thing make them ineligible for deferred action and they get deported back to wherever they came from?

Very few illegals who come from contiguous territory get deported. They get a voluntary return. It's only if they are serious criminals, that gets them a deportation.

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Originally Posted by pixelfixed

New Kali laws,Show proof of insurance,you get a drivers License
Get the license, than cancel the insurance the next day,thats what they do:(

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That's about right!!!! It's probably that way here in Texas too there are so damn many of 'em!!!!!

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Originally Posted by gugi

But wouldn't such thing make them ineligible for deferred action and they get deported back to wherever they came from?

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Absoluly,for sure some may be deported,but in two weeks they will be back.

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Originally Posted by pixelfixed

Absoluly,for sure some may be deported,but in two weeks they will be back.

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I don't think it's as trivial, but I'm not an expert. I only know from the news that crossing the US border is a fair bit harder than crossing the one between California and Nevada.
May be it is still too easy, but that's really the fault of the american voters.

BTW, I've had to cancel my car insurance just once and while it was years ago it wasn't as simple as 'I don't want it anymore'. I had to prove I no longer had the car.