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... we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.
His birthday is tomorrow.
maybe I should get a cigar
Are you talking about the guy from that old TV show about the island and the peril they were in....is it Gilligan's Birthday tomorrow?
Ummmmmm. Churchhill?
I'll give myself a spritz of Blenheim Bouquet tomorrow.
Don't give it away that quickly...at least mention the opening to that old Supertramp song.....:rofl2:Quote:
Originally Posted by sharptonn
What? "Take a look at my girlfriend...She's the only one I got"Quote:
Originally Posted by Phrank
Are you overestimating the number of girlfriends you have again?Quote:
Originally Posted by sharptonn
A habit. Hard to break! :roflmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by AlanQ
Now there was a man who could make and deliver a speech. I remember watching his funeral on TV as a kid.
Bob
Mike Tyson during the Hollyfield fight, not generally known, but he whispered it into Hollyfield's ear .......... :rofl2:
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His Great-Grandfather was born in Wallingford, Connecticut, est 1667!
(Winston Churchill, that is!).
Yeah, Tyson's grandfather was born in da Bronx ....... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by sharptonn
So the next question is, Why don't we have politicians of his caliber today?
Very simple answer,, we get what we ask for.
Winston Churchill.
Dignity.Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigspendur
It seems dignity has been lost, sad to say.
Men gifted as he was only come along once in a blue moon, then the occasion has to come up that reveals their greatness, or their failure. He certainly rose to the occasion and held that island nation together against all odds.
If you take all of our Presidents, how many were 'great' men ? Washington, Lincoln, FDR (AFAIC) and even Truman. How many lives, American lives did he save by dropping the nukes on Japan ? Took great intestinal fortitude to take on the presidency after FDR died, and he wasn't at all prepared for it by his predecessor.
Look at Lincoln's generals during the War Between The States. General George McClellan was the hot dog of the bunch it seemed, but he turned out to be ineffective, and the star of the show turned out to be a little guy from Ohio named Ulysses Simpson Grant. Now there was a man.
It's pretty simply in my eyes.
Men of that caliber can make more money with less stress nowadays. The only people that want it go for power or prestige.
Twitter and Facebook?Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigspendur
Bob
Not that Robert MacNamara was in the same league with Winston Churchill, but if you want to see a great film, a documentary, check out The Fog Of War Don't let the high price scare you off. You can get it used for four bucks and up. You'll have a whole new perspective on WWII, Vietnam, and more.
Another classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6JxSHmVB5g
Bob
He was a great orator and had a great wit. Here is one of my favorite quotes from him ;
"IN 1931, When Churchill was in the opposition, he said this to the House of Commons concerning Prime Minister Ramsay MacDonald:
"I remember when I was a child, being taken to the celebrated Barnum's Circus which contained an exhibition of freaks and monstrosities, but the exhibit on the programme which I most desired to see was the one described as "The Boneless Wonder.'
My parents judged that that spectacle would be too revolting and demoralizing for my youthful eyes, and I have waited fifty years to see the boneless wonder sitting on the Treasury Bench.''
One of my favorite barbs from Winston Churchill was when MP Bessie Braddock said of Winston during Session:
"Winston, you are drunk, and what’s more you are disgustingly drunk."
And his response was:
"My dear, you are ugly, and what’s more, you are disgustingly ugly. But tomorrow I shall be sober and you will still be disgustingly ugly."
Another interesting fact about Winston...he dictated his books yet painstakingly wrote out his speeches.....
So it was he who penned that! Thanks, Phranks! :D
Another good quick quip of Winston's was when, I think it was Lady Astor (?) said, 'Winston, if you were my husband I would put poison in your tea.' He replied, 'Madame, if you were my wife I would gladly drink it.'
Yessir that was Lady Astor. That's one of my favorites. Another good one:
"An appeaser is one who feeds the crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.'
I think his shining hour was as Prime Minister of Britain during WWII. That should be tempered with the fact that he had a few stumbles along the way such as being the architect of the disastrous Gallipoli Campaign during WWI to name but one. Ask any Ozzie or Kiwi about that one. A great man but still had a few failings, like most of us, being only human.
Bob
I think those remarks were taken from others. The original was from W.C Fields probably the 1920s and the other was taken from a Groucho Marx Routine from the 1930s. They were changed somewhat.Quote:
Originally Posted by sharptonn
I can see that!Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigspendur
The 30th President of the United States, Calvin Coolidge, was not nicknamed 'Silent Cal' for nothing. He was well known for being a man of few words. Whilst seated at a dinner party next to poet and satirist Dorothy Parker, Parker said to him,
"Mr. Coolidge, I've made a bet against a fellow who said it was impossible to get more than two words out of you."
Coolidge replied, "You lose".
When Coolidge died in 1933, Dorothy Parker remarked, "How can they tell?"
Churchill has always been one of my heroes. Without the great motivating force of his formidable personality during the darkest days of the Blitz in 1940, I believe the 3rd Reich might have successfully taken Britain, and that might have been, as they say, all she wrote.
I disagree. For money ,power, or prestige you need to strive on stress.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinnermint
This is just a thought but how about a feeling of patronizing superiority?
Lady Nancy Astor:
"Winston, if you were my husband, I'd put poison in your coffee."
Winston Churchill:
"Nancy, if you were my wife, I'd drink it."
