A DNA database with 2% of the population can be used to find almost anyone
Centuries of data in one drop of blood.
https://qz.com/1422656/public-dna-da...almost-anyone/
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A DNA database with 2% of the population can be used to find almost anyone
Centuries of data in one drop of blood.
https://qz.com/1422656/public-dna-da...almost-anyone/
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Wow, i thought i was safe but then I remembered that my Dad had done one of those Ancestry things.Guess there is no hiding now.:)
Interesting stuff. I wonder how many of the DNA services put there have publically accessable data bases. The few I have heard of have a report that you can access but no access to information of others. Obviously they exist. It makes one consider what they have become involved in and what that means for society as a whole.
One word: hackers. Regardless of public accessibility to the databases housing DNA data for Ancestry and 23andme, those systems are connected to TCP/IP networks making them just as hackable as Facebook, Yahoo, Google, Equifax, etc. have been recently. Russians hacked the entire Yahoo customer base in 2014 -- which took Yahoo 2 years to reveal -- and somehow we cannot believe hackers directly influenced the 2016 election.
While kayaking with a buddy yesterday (gorgeous 65F fall day), we discussed the dire need for treatment of software development like a true engineering discipline. Took some major bridge collapses and loss of life to trigger that change in construction which lead to truly board-certified civil engineers.
The term software engineer is oxymoronic at best and should have double quotes, Software "Engineer," given that it's pretty much still in the Wild West stage of evolution.
Scary sh!t if you ask this former computer dude. A seriously critical software "bridge" (or, several) will collapse soon since people typically need a crisis to focus their attention and actions.
:soapbox::aargh:
An article in my local paper yesterday.
Take the skyway? You can get $100 for your DNA - StarTribune.com
It is to remember that certain religions baptize deceased persons, ancesters " to assure their entrance into heaven."
Makes a good mailing list also.
JMO, YMMV
~Richard
Heard on the news:
A gas station posted a sign:
"Please do not warm urine samples in the microwave."
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
George Santayana
All we have to do is remember Hitler, eugenics, Rwanda and what has happened repeatedly to First Nations people to know that tracking genetic background can lead to some pretty terrible happenings.
We worry about phishing and hacking on the internet and all sorts of telephone scams. The only way to protect yourself, if that is even possible, is to not play in the game at all. I do not participate in online surveys, ancestry searches or other potentially veiled ways other folks can find out about me. In spite of that, I’m sure anyone with the knowledge and skill can find out a great deal about me. I choose not to make it any easier for them.
I'm chagrined to admit that I submitted a spit sample to one of those services back when they were having all the specials, like $59.95 or something. This was before I seriously considered the potential future implications; the sad thing is that I didn't really find out that much that I didn't already know. Turns out my ancestors were mostly from Western Europe/England/Ireland, etc.. Well, no s**t, Sherlock! They keep teasing you with the next level of info. available for more money-screw 'em and their whole business model.
If you guys are interested in the terrifying potential for technology misuse, watch the series Black Mirror on Netflix. Many of the most gripping episodes are so terrifying because they are completely plausible within a few short years.
Yea I tried one of those ancestry services. They told me I was older than dirt and my great grandfather was a TRex.
Not only DNA, how about your unique biometrics stored in a data base:https://www.clearme.com/
Egads -- 200 proof nightmare fuel there! People will sell their souls in the name of convenience I swear.Quote:
Originally Posted by honedright
:thinking:
I am adopted at birth from unknown(to me) origins. I am fine with it. Always have been.
In an invasion of my privacy, one of my daughters swiped a journal my adoptive mother gave me should I ever want to read it.
I had not read it and she knew it.
Did the DNA and ancestry and starts telling me about my brothers........She meant well.
I am proud of her. Just was a leetle pissed! :)
Gives Me one of those ancestry DNA kits to do and send in. Did not do it.
Stuff creeps me out. Like digging up bones. Leads to trouble sometimes.
Sleeping dogs and such.
TBH, the results I have seen gleaned by my 3 daughters is contradictory and silly.
Not sure I trust this half-assed gold mine of something nobody should know about.
JMO
I did the DNA spit thing and learn a little, but really it won't make any difference. Not like I'm going to go out and try to find others in my long lost family tree. The wife wanted to do it so what the hell. I don't have much, and no excitement in my history so I'm not too worried. There are a lot more fun people to mess with besides me. Life will go on and all I can do is hope the end comes before someone finds me and destroys my life with a computer. It can happen to all of us so I don't sweat it.
I knew there was something wrong with you Tom. But you're still ok in my book. LOL.
Richard, The incident that made those signs become necessary happened in Denver. It was all over the news around these parts. Stupid girl and a fake piss test. She didn't get the job.
It's a slippery slope. Scary s**t.
It's not "if", it's "when" it gets hacked. And if there's a way to manipulate it to control people, that "will" happen at some point. Because that's what history teaches us.
I like to stay positive. But when I delve into these subjects..
Seems to me our species is doomed..
Unless some god, or aliens save us. But I must stop myself there... let's not forget that we cannot see every road ahead.
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With perfect information comes the death of intrigue. What’s left to be curious about if we already know disposition, and all possible roads that could be traveled by an individual? This is where this is all leading to.
Many people believe God has a plan for them, that their life is pre-destined. And that’s fine. Except given enough information, it will not be God planning it out for you. It will be the limmitations of your DNA, and a society ensuring you live to your limitations. There will be no room for the manifestation of exceptionalism.
Humanity will enter a new phase. One none of us will recognize. A boring sanitized version where cash and the ability to create your own destiny will go unrealized for all but the 1%.
According to Vice, white crooks are screwed lol!
https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/...cenewsfacebook
Uh, yeah, that’s the very same implication put forth in the article I posted. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by earcutter
There have been some movies that outlined some of these seeming inevitabilities quite well. Perhaps this is one reason why the red flag that some of us see, is non existent to many others.
Also that it is an extremely uncomfortable idea. Most people have a hard time dealing with everyday fears. I'm not sure if it was always this way, maybe it was, as a spoon full of sugar has long helped the medicine go down.
But when "normal" people hear these concerns, they dismiss the message, and cast out the messenger. (Often ridicule, and destroy).
There's probably some ancient understanding rulers know, that the people will generally keep each other in line...
In this case, the people (my sister did that dang genealogy thing), send in their tracking numbers.
Maybe I can look forward to my first tattoo being a bar code.
But thats probably not necessary, as nano-bots will provide a more thorough control...
Sweet!
:)