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    Well the EMA guy said that getting boosted let's say every 4 months is not good. He thinks annual boosters like the flu might be the way.
    I am not aware of any country with the exception of Israel recommending 4th or whatever doses.

    Having a vaccine where you need 3 doses, some people actually need a 4th one, is not something new, think of HepB.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ystem-ema-says

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    Quote Originally Posted by alex1921 View Post
    I am not aware of any country with the exception of Israel recommending 4th or whatever doses.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ystem-ema-says
    Just to expand on that.

    https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-t...ians-1.5739161

    Also my wife got a call from the LTC home where her mother resides that they will begin giving a fourth booster shot to residents when all the personal care consent forms are in. There has been no official announcement regarding that from the Ontario provincial government yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alex1921 View Post
    Well the EMA guy said that getting boosted let's say every 4 months is not good. He thinks annual boosters like the flu might be the way.
    I am not aware of any country with the exception of Israel recommending 4th or whatever doses.

    Having a vaccine where you need 3 doses, some people actually need a 4th one, is not something new, think of HepB.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ystem-ema-says
    My father in Law is 102 in a nursing home in Ontario.

    As of yesterday there are 11 covid cases, staff and residents mixed.

    The home called to tell us, and informed us that long term care residents in their home at least will be getting their 4th shot within the net few weeks.

    Only for Long term care residents at the moment though.
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    Interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alex1921 View Post
    Well the EMA guy said that getting boosted let's say every 4 months is not good. He thinks annual boosters like the flu might be the way.
    I am not aware of any country with the exception of Israel recommending 4th or whatever doses.

    Having a vaccine where you need 3 doses, some people actually need a 4th one, is not something new, think of HepB.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ystem-ema-says
    Alex I am not sure where you get you info but it is very out of date.. Even the NYT is reporting on it
    Please don't even try the "Well that is for at risk patients only" the 3rd dose started that way too ​

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/09/h...e-booster.html
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    NYT article from 1/9/22 and it's the 14th. I wouldn't go as far as saying VERY out of date.

    I think the 3rd dose was needed, the numbers from Israel clearly indicated that. The number of antibodies was just dropping too quickly after only 2 doses.
    For what it's worth I used a friends lab and checked the levels of my covid neutralizing antibodies. I got Vaxxed Dec '21, Jan '22. End of August I was at 40%, that's the way his lab reported it, boosted on 11/1 and checked again in December and they jumped to 95.5%.

    4th dose? I am not there yet. Omicron specific dose? Will have to see what the omicron actually does. Some reports say that it doesn't affect the lungs as much so less chances ending up in the ICU unable to breathe.

    At the end of the day gentlemen. You want to get vaccinated, get. You don't then don't. I am not losing sleep over this one. ��♂️

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    Quote Originally Posted by STF View Post
    My father in Law is 102 in a nursing home in Ontario.
    What a coincidence, my MiL is also 102 in a nursing home in Ontario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alex1921 View Post
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    NYT article from 1/9/22 and it's the 14th. I wouldn't go as far as saying VERY out of date.

    I think the 3rd dose was needed, the numbers from Israel clearly indicated that. The number of antibodies was just dropping too quickly after only 2 doses.
    For what it's worth I used a friends lab and checked the levels of my covid neutralizing antibodies. I got Vaxxed Dec '21, Jan '22. End of August I was at 40%, that's the way his lab reported it, boosted on 11/1 and checked again in December and they jumped to 95.5%.

    4th dose? I am not there yet. Omicron specific dose? Will have to see what the omicron actually does. Some reports say that it doesn't affect the lungs as much so less chances ending up in the ICU unable to breathe.

    At the end of the day gentlemen. You want to get vaccinated, get. You don't then don't. I am not losing sleep over this one. ��♂️



    I wonder what mine are at after Delta in October

    Oh wait, "Nobody Cares" Natural Immunity the most ignored least studied stat in the Medical Community today
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    That's what I've been saying, Glen.

    They don't, and will not talk about it. Because that's the only , and realistically, cure.

    Hate to say it....this virus isn't going to stop, so to say, cause it'll always be there, like the others, till there's a balance in the human population.... Period.

    The weak and diseased will die, so to leave the strong to foster new and healthy life. That's Nature of life, as it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by outback View Post
    That's what I've been saying, Glen.

    They don't, and will not talk about it. Because that's the only , and realistically, cure.

    Hate to say it....this virus isn't going to stop, so to say, cause it'll always be there, like the others, till there's a balance in the human population.... Period.

    The weak and diseased will die, so to leave the strong to foster new and healthy life. That's Nature of life, as it is.


    Not quite there with ya Mike but close, I feel those that need/want the Vaccine should get it, I am not by any means anti Vaccine just anti "Force of Law"..

    I believe the new pills will be a game changer, it is a HUGE difference in the Risk/Reward equation once you have the virus..

    I also have a worse reaction to people that have the audacity to call for punishment of anyone that doesn't agree with their edicts..
    That to me is the lowest of all reactions of the human condition, to literally ask to hurt people that refuse their opinions..
    To me, and my code of life, I can't respect a person that supports it, I remember that same attitude back in the late 80's early 90's with the AIDS outbreaks, it didn't age well. I am surprised to see it's ugly head raised again
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