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    Quote Originally Posted by outback View Post
    They don't, and will not talk about it. Because that's the only , and realistically, cure.
    Neither, natural immunity or being vaccinated are cures. A cure is something you do or take after you have a disease/infection and even then there is no guarantee of 100% success.

    That said, both unvaccinated and vaccinated people have suffered reinfections so I doubt one is superior to the other in that regard. OTH if you get infected unvaccinated the first time you are far more likely to have a serious infection and/or die than had you been vaccinated. Vaccines are the quickest way, only if everyone gets onboard, to reach a level of herd immunity that produces the least number of serious infection causing hospitalisation and/or death. If you get to that point then you will also have the least interruptions to your regular life and the economy. Not everyone likes the Darwinistic approach when there is a better way to get there for all. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

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    Natural immunity isn't bullet proof. Unfortunately I have seen my fair share of reinfections and a lot of those didn't end up well. First round they didn't get that sick, year later dying in the ICU. One that comes to mind, healthy, exercising, went to son's wedding where he picked the virus.

    Believe what you want but from personal experience, the ones dying are unvaccinated and the ones that were vaccinated were patients who couldn't respond to the vaccine because they were on immunosuppressants for transplants etc. That's what I see.
    There is a difference having an infection or reinfection or breakthrough infection and being home feeling sick or dying in the ICU. I am talking about the dying in the ICU.
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    One of the problems is there is still much we just don't know about this virus. They have been dealing with the normal Flu Virus for how many years and they still can't produce a really effective vaccine for it. They can't make one for the common cold too.

    So no one knows what tricks this virus has up its sleeve. It could just disappear because of some mutation like a battleship with too much armor and armament that sinks in a small storm. It could come back and wipe us all out (watch the movie "Covid 29") or it could just be with us forever and be like the common cold.

    As far as vaccines for covid goes of course too much is never a good thing. However like everything else these are exceptions. My brother takes anti rejection drugs and after the first two shots a month later he had zero antibodies and even after a booster his antibody level is very low. In his case a fourth shot might be appropriate IF it makes a difference.

    Here in New Mexico right now the hospitals are jammed packed with Covid and all elective surgeries are on hold. They have the beds alright but not the staff to to deal with them. Many of the MDs who are in the medical group are being forced to work in the Hospitals which of course means if you need to see your family doctor you can wait weeks and a specialist months.
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    Were they smoking it at the time they made the discovery?

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    Most assuredly.
    As I understand it they discovered this in early January 2020, but kept forgetting to write down their learnins till early 2021 cause ya know,,,
    they were baked. hehehe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeB52 View Post
    Most assuredly.
    As I understand it they discovered this in early January 2020, but kept forgetting to write down their learnins till early 2021 cause ya know,,,
    they were baked. hehehe.
    Thought so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STF View Post
    I reckon we should take a break and hit the ice cream place.

    Glen can buy Paul a cone and Paul can get Glen a smoothie then after the ice cream headache settles down and i have been round the table checking to see if anyone left a bit for me to finish off we can meet back here with a newfound respect and CIVILITY.
    Nah I’d rather see Glen and Paul square off in the ring
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    Now here’s a stat nobody is listening to, I done extensive study, long hours many dollars and I have this figured out. Copious amounts of bourbon, proven fact, I’m still here and Covid hasn’t even dared take me and my liver on!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcrideshd View Post
    I’m still here and Covid hasn’t even dared take me and my liver on!
    My best friend died of liver disease a few years ago. Diagnosis to death was about four months. Apparently by the time you find out you've got it, it's often too late. Maybe that's a good thing, I don't know.
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