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    Quote Originally Posted by BobH View Post
    Unfortunately, yes it is a very big word and there is no logical reason for it to be so.

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    Just another nail in the coffin of I won't say what.

    It reminds me of a book thought crazy years ago "The late great United States".
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    One of the reasons why hospitals run out of beds is that COVID patients once they end up in the ICU they tend to stay there for a while. Not unusual to have people on the ventilator 15+ days. Add to that the fact that some spend time on high flow oxygen and bipap and suddenly one patient occupies the room for 20-30 days. Suddenly you have half of your unit with covid patients and planned surgeries are getting cancelled because there is no room to place the patient after surgery.
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    This says it all.

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    Something i'd like to know; why does the medical establishment,CDC etc. fail to promote/look into succesful existing safe therapy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tintin View Post
    Something i'd like to know; why does the medical establishment,CDC etc. fail to promote/look into succesful existing safe therapy?
    They do all the time. It's called VACCINATION.
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    Another case has come up. Death from covid, on fully vaccinated persons.

    Ain't nothing going to stop it, till it runs its course.... PERIOD.!
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    Quote Originally Posted by outback View Post
    Another case has come up. Death from covid, on fully vaccinated persons.

    Ain't nothing going to stop it, till it runs its course.... PERIOD.!
    No vaccine has ever been 100% effective but get enough people vaccinated you have have minimal risk of dying not no risk. Just take a look at who is in ICUs on ventilators or dying and you will see that the vast majority are the unvaccinated. Personally, I don't think Covid 19 will ever run it's course and disappear. We may be stuck with yearly Covid 19 shots just like the common Flu shots. The idea is to minimise as much as possible people dying from it.

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    It's also good to know who died despite being vaccinated. Patients with a suppressed immune system dont really respond the way healthy people do to vaccines.
    I was talking to a neurologist and she has patients on MS therapies. 2 doses of vaccines and she checked antibodies. Result - 0.
    And supressed immune system doesnt mean just organ transplants etc. Uncontrolled diabetes messes up the white cells and the response to infections isn't very strong and with this virus diabetes seems to be time after time a predictive factor for severity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alex1921 View Post
    It's also good to know who died despite being vaccinated. Patients with a suppressed immune system dont really respond the way healthy people do to vaccines.
    I was talking to a neurologist and she has patients on MS therapies. 2 doses of vaccines and she checked antibodies. Result - 0.
    And supressed immune system doesnt mean just organ transplants etc. Uncontrolled diabetes messes up the white cells and the response to infections isn't very strong and with this virus diabetes seems to be time after time a predictive factor for severity.
    Yep, my brother is a kidney transplant patient and he's on all kinds of drugs to minimize rejection. He got both shots in March and his anti body count is 0.
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