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After a long dry spell this summer that left the grass brown we are getting a decent amount of rain and the grass is greening up. Forest fire season in the province is slowly winding down and the rain has helped there too. So far this year Ontario has lost 770,000 Hectares/1,925,000 Acres of forests to fire. Worst forest fire season in years.
Bob
Good to hear, we need some of that down here before the lightning and wind really starts to pick up.
Happy for you. Hope rain comes to us as well. We need it so much here. Unfortunately, they say that we will experience floods when rain comes due to extensive fires during summer and damage to large forests.
Glad you are seeing some moisture. If you have any extra, send some our way.
Yea, a lot of places had the dries this year. Sorry to hear you are still waiting for rain.Quote:
Originally Posted by cudarunner
Bob
Good to hear , we finally have sun after 4 months of rain...
What a world, we were burning up and you were getting flooded out. Truly strange weather this year.Quote:
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Bob
We are over 9 inches below normal rainfall
Went thru a month or so of no rain, had the irrigation going full time, but the last month, they haven’t turned on, surprising we haven’t had more though, with two storms in the last 3 weeks in the gulf, we usually get hammered, but it’s just been good soaking rains
Glad you've gotten some Bob. I wish I could have sent you some of our residual. It's hard to think of it that way but forests aren't destroyed by fire they are maintained/renewed. It's actually good for forest but really bad for people.
Yup, forest fires do help renew the forests and in the case of Ontario not a lot of people had to be evacuated as the fires were for the most part away from heavily populated areas. The smoke from the fires was a problem for a lot of folks across North America though.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulFLUS
There really is no up side for the places that have been badly flooded and in some cases repeatedly this year around the world.
All these events have been of far greater magnitude than is normal too. Lets hope next year shows a return to normalcy.
Bob
It is too bad for all those people who have been adversely effected. My only point is that we think on human terms which is natural and understandable. Even the flooding has it's benefits for the planet. New Orleans is now below sea level because people stopped the annual flooding which redeposited soil and minerals which kept it at or above sea level. The Mississippi Delta has topsoil 50 feet deep because of flooding.
Still sucks for people though in the immediate.
No, people didn't stop the flooding around New Orleans. We don't have that ability. Parts of the city range from a foot above sea level to below sea level. Storms and sea level rise are what's doing it.
It's no different that Florida where the Everglades are slowly being reclaimed by the sea and will eventually be gone and if nothing is done probably all of the pan handle will disappear over the next hundred years or so.
Sorry but that's not true. The reason why they have the levee system is because of annual flooding from the Mississippi River. Look it up.
Edit: https://www.theatlantic.com/technolo...rleans/552323/
And the reason why the Everglades are sinking and shrinking is because of people also from water drainage for municipal use. It has also caused salt water intrusion. There is a range war going on in the state over water rights. People in the south want to pipe down water from the north where I live and people in my area are saying over my rotting corpse. It has gotten very heated over the years. You already screwed up your part of the state now you want to screw up our part of the state also. I don't think so.
But, again. CAUSED BY MAN.
There are levee systems all over the place (meaning world). They hold back water and the landscapes haven changed. Many places depend on seasonal flooding to renew things but erosion takes away what mother nature produces. If what you say was true New Orleans would be sitting on a mountain from all the accumulation of stream deposits over millions of years.
Most of the Mississippi deposits have extended the delta into the Gulf of Mexico which has helped protect New Orleans and those are vanishing from rising sea level and more storms.
New Orleans never should have been built where it is and some day it will have to be abandoned unless they spend trillions to build a sea wall all around it.
Well I won't disagree with the last part of that. Man builds a lot of places they have no business building. But the assertion about.it being a mountain is ludicrous. It was once under water but the deposits made land there. Stopping the flow of the sediments and draining the water has made it sink a portion of the way to where it was which bears out my original point. No big deal for nature but a bitch for mankind.
The threat of rising sea levels associated with climate warming/change has had even the Pentagon planning for it going back at least a decade maybe longer. That is different from more frequent monsoon like rainfalls in areas that don't normally get that also due to changing weather patterns due to climate change.
In the US lucky low lying gulf coast areas get the double whamy of rising sea levels and more frequent and intense Atlantic hurricanes making landfall. It will get to the point where you can't cope with that.
Bob
Man is an adaptive animal. We cope with lots of different kinds of situations.
Climate is a fluid thing not static. We have been warming long before man was advanced enough to affect it. Plus we just had a minor ice age less than a thousand years ago. One major volcanic eruption and we go right back into a miniature ice age like the one after Krakatoa blew in the 13th and 15th centuries. Or maybe a major earthquake or a massive natural gas bubble popping from the ocean floor causes major pattern changes. Climate changes all the time in geologic terms. Man's timeline is just like dog years exponentially in comparison so it seems like it has been this way forever.
Yes, there will likely be massive casualties WHEN, not IF one of these events happens and probably other mass extinctions but mankind will most likely survive as long as the air is still breathable. It will probably be in more of a early man setting but survive none the less so keep those survival skills honed.
Yuppers, climate is always changing but it is the rate at which it is now changing that's the difference. Mankind, especially since the industrial revolution, is now the prime culprit in in the more rapid warming of the climate globally. Man has been such a influence that you have to retrieve metal from pre nuclear age shipwrecks to see what was normal background radiation should be.
Trying to survive a natural global cataclysmic event of which you have no control over is one thing but failing to try and do something to correct a situation you alone are creating is something else again. That is very coping technique.
Bob
We're due for a bit of rain today, but not much....0.1-0.25 inches. It might delay the resumption
of fire season for a week, but it won't add anything to our near-empty reservoirs.
1,968,326 Acres burned so far this year in California.
No rain of any consequence is expected until November.
Man, that is a rough spot to be in. I really hope that situation changes. Just up the coast BC will get torrential rains from a pineapple express.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulKidd
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/warning-issued...uver-1.2203319
Bob
I'm not even going to get into the whacky quackery of global warming junk science and hysteria. Too much political agenda and not enough fact.
I do believe that we should be good stewards of the earth to the best of our ability. That is a different thing than "save the planet" which we are incapable of. That puts us in the God seat which is frankly above our pay grade. "Save the humans," is probably even beyond us since we cannot get on the same page and probably never will.
Planet Earth will survive just fine with or without us. It's survived all kinds of cataclysmic events in it's long history. The life on it is another story.
Like everything else you get to choose your facts but it's like russian roulette. Choose the wrong ones and it's like all those fools who deny Covid and Vaccines and are dead now.
Paul, you never cease to amaze me.Quote:
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Keep up the good work :roflmao
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Originally Posted by STF
At your service sir.
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Bob, got the rain! Thanks for sending it. I hope shipping costs weren't too much.:rofl2:Quote:
Originally Posted by BobH
We are getting a nice gentle rain, it could rain like this for a week and not hurt a thing. However it's only supposed to be for today and tomorrow, but it beats a swift kick in the arse.
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Yeah there's some truth to that but there's also the matter of credibility. I tell you what, when someone on the global warming hand wringing committee makes China and India quit polluting And quit exploiting their workers or even suggest that they do so then I'll listen. Until then all I have to say is...Quote:
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What's that on the left side of your water trough?Quote:
Originally Posted by cudarunner
It looks like Itsy Bitsy Spider came down your down your water spout :D
Yep...clean air goes to Europe, across Russia. Down thru Asia, across Africa, and back to use to be cleaned again
Kinda. But one volcano blows, and we've done nothing.
The problem with the earth is.....too many humans thinking they can manipulate it.
As written...man will create his own demise
How very true and sooner than you think!
I would not go that far as the USA is one of the top 3 greenhouse gas emitters but don't worry Canada made it into the top 10. Volcanoes erupting you have no control over but this we do to a great extent.Quote:
Originally Posted by outback
https://www.canada.ca/en/environment...emissions.html
Bob
Just some burnt weeds. I killed off all of the grass and weeds in the bed then burnt it.Quote:
Originally Posted by STF
Burning weed huh? I knew it
California's "Water Year" just ended, and the stats are out.
2020-2021 was the driest year since 1895: statewide, only 49% of average rainfall, with some areas as low as 26%.
Here in the San Francisco Bay area, the number was 39% of normal.
Water reservoir storage statewide: 57% of normal.
Most of the water districts in this area have water restrictions on customers of from 10-50%.
Lake Tahoe water level is down 5 feet.
Lake Oroville (California's largest reservoir) is 271 feet below capacity.
Let the rain dances commence!
We've only had two small rains in months. It's raining very gently as I write. It could rain like this for two weeks and not do any erosion. However it's only supposed to be for tonight and then only a slight chance of rain tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulKidd
I do hope that the rain gods bless you as well.
