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Hmm... maybe Obama should have picked his wife for VP instead of BidenQuote:
Originally Posted by Hutch
She's eloquent, has strong character, and we know where she stands on policy. I wonder what Biden has that Michelle doesn't have?
Obama himself doesn't even know what several of his positions on issues are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hutch
I don't actually think it's a subtle point, but you are still missing it. I said they are equally inexperienced - that has nothing to do with vetting of their IDEAS in the primaries. Whatever his ideas are, he is inexperienced, and if you don't think Palin is experienced enough, you shouldn't be voting Obama.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hutch
If you are voting Obama because you know his ideas (hope, change, hope, change) and don't want to vote McCain because you are not versed in his VP's ideas, that's your prerogative.........but on inexperience, having your ideas vetted in the primaries isn't experience.
And handlers....you think Obama isn't being handled? Yes he is (and expertly so I might add).
Hi All,
I apologize if others have said something similar, but eight pages is just too much to read through to find out. Just a few thoughts on pick for VP.
Imagine being a Republican, and sitting in a room with many other supporters. You're waiting to find out who McCain has decided on. Very exciting! Then the moment comes...........it's Sarah Palin!!!!!!!!
Now, what do you think happens next in that room? Wild cheering and exuberance? Lotsa high 5's? Congratulations all around? Yeah..........right.
Nope, the party was confused as hell..........you can bet on that. Hehe, I bet everyone in that room (and most people of both parties) was surprised. That meant the GOP had to 'learn the pitch', or the party line, in other words.
They needed some direction.......how to spin this as best they could. The true believers had to be fed something that sorta sounded legit.......a reason for this totally unexpected pick. Now they all know they are VERY excited about Mrs Palin, and more importantly, they have been told why they are excited. That's a big relief, and now they have a story they can all stick to.
This pick will turn out like Mr Bush and his Harriet Miers moment. Hehe, that was his decision alone, and it showed just what kind of fair and impartial legal mind Mr Bush has. This MUST have been Mr McCain's decision, probably going against the advice of others. Plus, he DID have the luxury of having quite a while to make the decision..........not a good sign.
I'd be willing to bet Mrs Palin will be replaced. Any takers?
Martin
Oh.......in all seriousness, if this post is too much, I can delete it with no hard feelings. Also, I'm a member of neither party, and being impartial seems easy for me as a result.
De Layne,
Others say McCain preferred someone else and the GOP pushed Palin on him as a Hail Mary desperation attempt. I guess after she speaks tonight at the convention we'll have even more to speculate about :)
political speculation I mean
As of this morning, they were giving 8:1 on that. It had been as high as 10:1, but as the various bits of information came out, they began to shorten.Quote:
Originally Posted by De Layne
Remembering as I do the Eagleton mess, I think it would take a real catastrophe to make them ditch her. Still, you can hear Democrats salivating over the choice.
j
:OT @Nord Jim if you can remember that far back you are really showing your age";"
Hi there Lee and Jim,
You know Lee, I heard that also, but I just don't see the 'why' of it myself. What caused the pressure, and why was she the best pick? I also agree that her speech may start to change how I perceive her nomination. It would be a kick if she came across as a likable and believable person....someone who wasn't just a token female being offered up. Of course, I'd have to see how she speaks and acts in other venues, but a good speech would be a start. I'm actually keeping an open mind.
Jim? Hehe, 8-1 still sounds high. I agree with you about the Dems loving this selection.........seems like a wonderful gift so far.
And I thought we were friends...Quote:
Originally Posted by nun2sharp
j
We'll probably never know. We do know that the party faithful weren't enamored with McCain's favorites (Lieberman and Ridge) because of their stance on reproductive freedom. Fact is those two were the only ones the Dems were really worried about. I'd love to know who McCain met with on Wednesday or so. Those were the people with the power to force a choice onto the guy with the nomination wrapped up. I'd love to know who they were -- they're the true power brokers in America these days. But we'll probably never know. One was probably Keyser Soze.Quote:
Originally Posted by De Layne
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Originally Posted by Nord Jim
If you want a friend in Washington, you'd better get a dog. Harry Truman:D