Heroes For Gods?

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Originally Posted by Seraphim

When was the last time ... humiliated in front of their peers.

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Yeah, I get it. I do. The issue that, I'm sure, made the teacher call for an evaluation, as it equally would me, is that he said that he'd drawn a picture of himself tortured and murdered on a cross. The evaluation revealed that he was actually just being defensive and, wow, it was the "right" guy tortured and murdered after all. Just the wrong day. *whew*

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Originally Posted by Del1r1um

You could also argue that for a true atheist (or nihilist), it really doesn't matter if people are killing or being killed, regardless of the motive. Even the socially constructed morality is pointless in the end, once your eyes close for the last time.

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The fact that something ends does not make its existence meaningless.

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Originally Posted by norman931

What about the religious folk who believe that God is love and that we are to love and do good to everybody, even those who hate us? There are, I think, quite a few of us.

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You tend to be a lot quieter than the "Burn the witches" crowd.



I disagree that religion causes most wars. Religion simply is an easily adapted vehicle for wars, readily seized upon by the greedy and opportunistic. Can you really think of a better vindication for unprovoked murder than "We're better than you in some absolute and utterly unprovable (and therefore not needing of proof) way."

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Originally Posted by wongkonpow

There are hundreds of Christian organizations that help feed the starving, help build homes for the homeless, dig wells, build schools, fight to free people from sex slavery, help suicidal and at-risk youth(suicide is the second biggest cause of death for youth).

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Yes the good that religious organizations do is obviously a blessing and undeniable. However, I can't help but think of the events a couple weeks ago where the catholic church (diocese?) in DC announced that it would close all its homeless shelters in the city if the city passed a law allowing homosexuals to marry.

And no, as screwed up and sick as that sounds, I did not make it up. They will let innocent people die in the streets rather than help them. They are holding the lives of the city's most unfortunate hostage in order to manipulate the voters to push forward their political agenda.

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Originally Posted by xman

Yeah, I get it. I do. The issue that, I'm sure, made the teacher call for an evaluation, as it equally would me, is that he said that he'd drawn a picture of himself tortured and murdered on a cross. The evaluation revealed that he was actually just being defensive and, wow, it was the "right" guy tortured and murdered after all. Just the wrong day. *whew*

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Thanks for your clarification.

Happy Holidays, guys!

EDIT: and girls :)

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Originally Posted by xman

Yeah, I get it. I do. The issue that, I'm sure, made the teacher call for an evaluation, as it equally would me, is that he said that he'd drawn a picture of himself tortured and murdered on a cross. The evaluation revealed that he was actually just being defensive and, wow, it was the "right" guy tortured and murdered after all. Just the wrong day. *whew*

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I thought the whole idea was jesus died for us and all that - maybe the kid is just understanding the divine metaphor here, and the teacher didn't understand how deep the kid was being (isn't it all of us being tortured on that cross?).

But more seriously, the schools seem quick to overreact to things these days. The kid drew a crucifix as a christmas thing - soooooooo?

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Originally Posted by loueedacat

I thought the whole idea was jesus died for us and all that - maybe the kid is just understanding the divine metaphor here, and the teacher didn't understand how deep the kid was being (isn't it all of us being tortured on that cross?).

But more seriously, the schools seem quick to overreact to things these days. The kid drew a crucifix as a christmas thing - soooooooo?

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I have to agree here. I'm a Catholic school boy since Kindergarten. I drew more than my fair share of crucifixes. That's a major overreaction and the teacher is clearly out of his/her mind. Or completely moronic. Who, that lives in the western world, does not know about Christ and the crucifix. Sure, it's the wrong holiday, but come on, the kid is 8.