Good OP=ED here from NY Times

She isn't afraid to tell it like it is. So what if sometimes she comes off a little rough around the edges....she is a "real" person unlike the marketing ploy in office right now. She also has good Christian values. If she could get a good team behind her to help with the hard decisions I'd get behind her no doubt. This country needs to make a quick u-turn and get it's priorities back on track and aim itself back towards God. She just might be able to help a great deal with that.

May God bless America but more importantly, may America bless God!

As a Christian, an anarchist and a vet, I don't find warhawks very Christ like... maybe it's just me.

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Originally Posted by AnarchoPhil

As a Christian, an anarchist and a vet, I don't find warhawks very Christ like... maybe it's just me.

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God sent the Israelites into war. I don't believe you can wrap God up into such a small package. Go a reread Joshua and tell me you still feel the same.

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Originally Posted by TheRedlines

She also has good Christian values.

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The intellectual types believe campaigning with religion at the top of the resume is a dangerous thing.

The evangelicals think it is the best way to rescue the country.

The neo-cons don't really care, but they like to act like they do.

Well as I see it the problem is not in the White House
it is in both houses of congress AND in the civil servants
that do all the work.

We need quality legislators, quality legislation and more
importantly oversight of the regulatory agencies that
make such a mess of things day in and day out.

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Originally Posted by TheRedlines

God sent the Israelites into war. I don't believe you can wrap God up into such a small package. Go a reread Joshua and tell me you still feel the same.

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Go reread Jesus and tell me if you still feel the same. There is nothing Christian about war.

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Originally Posted by TheRedlines

If she could get a good team behind her to help with the hard decisions I'd get behind her no doubt.

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Unfortunately her track record on this point is pretty poor as well. She's no doubt a very skillful politician in the sense that she knows how to market herself to a particular type of electorate and that has served her very very well. But as far as actual ability to govern, so far she's demonstrated that she's worse than most.

Being smart and capable is not sufficient, as we are all aware of plenty of dictators and tyrants who are just using their skills for abuse. But switching to stupid and incompetent is definitely the wrong thing to change.

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Go reread Jesus and tell me if you still feel the same. There is nothing Christian about war.

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I take it you haven't read Revelation yet? I'll be very happy to continue this in PMs or even over Skype if you'd like but I don't believe we ought to cloud up this thread anymore than we have already.

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Originally Posted by AnarchoPhil

As a Christian, an anarchist and a vet, I don't find warhawks very Christ like... maybe it's just me.

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Mohandas Gandhi Quotes

Not my problem, really, but she seems to be one of those populist politicians who are always more than willing to tell where current administration went wrong but not capable to give any realistic answers how things could really made better, in a real life and not just in a theory.

Also mixing religion with politics is a first step in a path that leads to sad ending, imho.