Tea Party: What is it/what does it stand for

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Originally Posted by riooso

I don't know about admirable but necessary. I have been reading the papers lately and a couple of instances come to mind. France is burning, and the UK is laying off 500,000 government workers. The Dutch can't afford the welfare system that they have. The European model that the progressive left wants for this country is not what the American people by a majority of 75%.

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You have to take this with a grain of salt. Yes, France is burning. It always burns. Really. Protests are to the French what guns are to Americans.

The scenes on the tv with the burning cars... that is really normal. I read that about 60 cars per week (or weekend) is the baseline, even if there are no special protests going. A couple of years ago there were monster riots in Marseille, and close to a thousand cars were torched in a weekend. Some guys even went so far as to torch their own cars, just for the chance to make it to the news if a camera crew happened to pass by.

Strikes, protest and burning things is the French way of life. The fact that they are now on the news in the US doesn't mean anything special, except someone currently has an interest of highlighting the current situation and using it for propaganda purposes.

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Originally Posted by Bruno

Protests are to the French what guns are to Americans.

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Don't misrepresent us!

We have WAY more guns per capita in this country than France has cars to burn. :)

Although I believe Sara Palin to be a political fraud and that she has done her damnedest to usurp the movement, she did this through the manipulation of the sudden rise of Republican sore losers that were miffed at their own party who were abandoning ship, jumped into the tea party boat and has taken it over. I know a number of them and they get real angry when I tell them they are just Republicans and not true tea party members. The original Tea party was comprised of Libertarians, and the disenfranchised from the 2 major parties, both republican and democrats who were concerned with porous borders despite a war on terror, tax and spend by both parties, both parties not listening to constituents and promoting party agendas rather than peoples representation.
A rose is still a rose, the numbers of disenfranchised are growing, it may take a couple of election cycles but the two dominant parties are going to transform or die. I believe most people are getting tired of the "oysters and champagne" mentality along the Potomac. The movement, whatever its name or without a name will continue to grow, in the meantime there will be a lot of flushing and plunging of the toilet known as DC before we get all of the turds out of the system. Wether for better or worse the teaparty is a beginning, giving birth to something new aint easy, ask your wives. There will be a lot of anxiety, pain, discomfort, swelling even maybe some blood to mix with the water being broken.

This whole business is just a very basic manifestation here in this country. There has been a general dumbing down of the typical American. People don't have the basic intelligence to analyze facts and come to proper conclusions. They allow themselves to be swayed by people with agendas and sound bytes. They allow themselves to be used as pawns by others. Many simply deny the truth in favor of some perceived truth. People have become slaves to our age and want thing now and solutions now even if it's just hype. So we had the worst recession in years. No matter, the President should have cleaned it up in a few months that's proof he's incompetent.

The ultra rich create division among the masses so they will fight amongst themselves taking the critical eye off them to allow them to continue to control and pull the strings in the background. This is an old game plan and it always works.

Yea people want small government until the next Hurricane comes and wipes em out then they demand to know why government isn't there to help or some drug their brother takes kills him because it wasn't properly approved for use.

People in this country have become too polarized, too intolerant, too greedy, too stupid and want to force others to adhere to their beliefs. If this continues how long do you thing this country has left?

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Originally Posted by thebigspendur

. If this continues how long do you thing this country has left?

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Too easy.

A little less than two years:

2012 phenomenon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Originally Posted by sicboater

Too easy.

A little less than two years:

2012 phenomenon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Great, so the earth is evil too?

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Originally Posted by thebigspendur

Yea people want small government until the next Hurricane comes and wipes em out then they demand to know why government isn't there to help or some drug their brother takes kills him because it wasn't properly approved for use.

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That's pretty much my take on it, too.

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Originally Posted by hoglahoo

Great, so the earth is evil too?

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Or maybe Mother Earth has decided her kids are out of hand.

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Originally Posted by thebigspendur

This whole business is just a very basic manifestation here in this country. There has been a general dumbing down of the typical American. People don't have the basic intelligence to analyze facts and come to proper conclusions. They allow themselves to be swayed by people with agendas and sound bytes. They allow themselves to be used as pawns by others. Many simply deny the truth in favor of some perceived truth. People have become slaves to our age and want thing now and solutions now even if it's just hype. So we had the worst recession in years. No matter, the President should have cleaned it up in a few months that's proof he's incompetent.

The ultra rich create division among the masses so they will fight amongst themselves taking the critical eye off them to allow them to continue to control and pull the strings in the background. This is an old game plan and it always works.

Yea people want small government until the next Hurricane comes and wipes em out then they demand to know why government isn't there to help or some drug their brother takes kills him because it wasn't properly approved for use.

People in this country have become too polarized, too intolerant, too greedy, too stupid and want to force others to adhere to their beliefs. If this continues how long do you thing this country has left?

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I find no fault with your post and wonder the same thing. Our society in recent years is based on instant gratification. We have had the "I gotta find myself" generation followed by the "me" generation and it has only gotten worse IMO. Because of our need of instant gratification and ignorance due to our laziness to fact check, question and converse ideas. We have become dependent on political promises, payoffs, slogans, buzzwords, catchprases and other forms of political correctness.

The idea of the TEA party will live or die on the 2012 election for President...

If Sarah Palin runs, then the movement is a dead issue, and the entire thing will fizzle and die out...

Now if she actually accepts her role as a lightening rod for the TEA Party Ideal and continues to push the issues and stays away from the party politics,, By taking out Republicans, that don't stand for fiscal conservative values, along with as many Liberals as possible, then perhaps it will become the voice of the people....