What's Your Opinion on Extremely Fast Motorcycles and Cars?

I'm not for banning such vehicles. However I do thoroughly believe if you cause an accident and illegal an excessive speed is a contributing factor then you have just sacrificed your right to drive. Because clearly you are an idiot and can't control a car as well as you think.

I also have the same attitude to drink drivers, if you are caught driving dangerously, pissed out of your tree, you should loose yer license.

If you take a high performance car or bike to track and let loose. Fair play, but you're on a track with others who accept the obvious risk. However if you come round a corner enjoying yourself and hammer into me at 100mph as I'm out on a sunday driving along with my wife and kid. It IS YOUR fault and I don't care what driving skills you think you have. If I happen to survive it I don't think you should be on the road.

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I don't mind people having fast cars or bikes.
I do mind people not following traffic laws.
One does not necessarily have to do with the other.

One thing I say is that I would appreciate it if asshole drivers had the decency to die in crashes they caused by reckless driving.
Far too often, people causing a big accident get off with mild injuries while the poor sod with his kids in the other car dies.
Like the 24 yeal old father who died, with his kid's life on the edge of a knife, just because some idiot decided to go streetracing.
I also think that drunk driving should be punishable by mandatory prison time, with the car being pressed to scrap.
Reckless drivers who cause death or destruction deserve their own circle in hell.

But no, merely owning a fast car does not constitute a crime, just like owning a gun does not make one a reckless killer.

Gentlemen.....This thread was all in jest. It did prove my point though. This is kind of a tagalong to the automatic weapons thread. I am surprised that it was not figured out. It was purposely left thinly veiled. I see where some folk's passions are though. Does anyone get the whole point of what I was doing here?....




I do like the fact someone replied with "better to have it and not need than to need it and not have it". My point exactly.

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Originally Posted by EMC45

Gentlemen.....This thread was all in jest. It did prove my point though. This is kind of a tagalong to the automatic weapons thread. I am surprised that it was not figured out. It was purposely left thinly veiled. I see where some folk's passions are though. Does anyone get the whole point of what I was doing here?....




I do like the fact someone replied with "better to have it and not need than to need it and not have it". My point exactly.

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Oh, I do think most of the posters understood that perfectly well.
Old Norwegian proverb; as you cries into the woods, so shall you be answered;)

Did not realize it was posted in jest,total waste of bandwidth.

it depends what you mean by "fast cars". back in the 60s or 70s they built some real hot cars but mainly it was a 0-60 thing. Honestly if you mean driving well over 100mph people have no clue or ability to do it. In Europe they need special certifications for that. If you have ever driven at those speeds (I have) a car up ahead of you is a speck you can hardly see and in a blink of an eye it's right on you. it takes special skills which you have to acquire.

I went 130 on a Suzy GT750 once, and after the tunnel vision went down, I could not wait to get it slowed up. Some guys have it, they learn it. I cannot afford any mistakes in a "learning curve". I am sure most can concur. However, a smoky burnout and a smackin 8th mile is fun as well as carving some twisties or hitting some berms.
Gotta keep in your place! Too much bike/car is unnecessary for that, but nice to have anyway, for some!

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Originally Posted by EMC45

I personally think they should be outlawed. No real use. Saleens, Roushs, Hayabusas, Monsters, 1400CC Sportbikes etc. etc. Why does anyone need a race car? Are we all race car drivers now? They serve no real "sporting pupose", do they? A twist of the throttle and mass carnage can ensue. I want more control over these things. It would make me feel safer.

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That's kinda like saying people shouldn't shave with a straight razor. It's too big, sharp, and dangerous...there's disposable cartridges that are much safer and can't hurt other people. :)

Like said above, there are off road (track) options. And in large part (can't stress this enough), we as parents are responsible to teach out children responsibility and common sense in these matters of safety.

You can't outlaw everything and feel safe. Laws only restrict/confine honest people willing to obey them. The real "dangerous" people will always find ways around them.

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Originally Posted by sharptonn

I went 130 on a Suzy GT750 once, and after the tunnel vision went down, I could not wait to get it slowed up. Some guys have it, they learn it. I cannot afford any mistakes in a "learning curve". I am sure most can concur. However, a smoky burnout and a smackin 8th mile is fun as well as carving some twisties or hitting some berms.
Gotta keep in your place! Too much bike/car is unnecessary for that, but nice to have anyway, for some!

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I used to drive a conventional Pete for an old boy that lost his license in the truck I drove. It had a K model Cummins putting over 800HP on the ground. It was geared out near as we could tell at 142MPH at 2100RPM and it would turn 2400 if you stuck your foot all the way in it. Speedo quit at 100. I ran it all the way to 2150RPM in the big hole one afternoon out in the boonies on IH20.

I'm here to tell you, a Pete grossing right at 80K lbs is NOT meant to go that fast. EVER. Period.

After that little jaunt, I never got that pig over 70MPH. I had that punk flying, I remembered what crappy brakes it had, and thought about those big wheels spinning that fast with all that rubber weight and the fact that they aren't rated for those speeds. I let off the throttle and let it coast down to about 70 while wondering if I'd lost my mind doing a stunt like that.

The guy that owned deserved to lose his license. He had too many high number speeding tickets in that pig. Every cop in N TX had a polaroid pic of that truck and they stopped it every time they saw it looking for the guy that owned it. I quit after a couple of months of that BS.

My old Cat powered bull wagon would hit 110 if really twisted that Cat's tail. Used to outrun the AMTRAK up in Wyoming on their 100MPH track they had up there. Lucky I never met a WY trooper when I was racing the trains. LOL

Ran my old 90" shovel one night till it went lean. NO idea how fast I was going, BUT I got passed by a sport bike that was close to breaking the sound barrier I think. I passed him and he just couldn't stand having a big twin in front of him I guess. LMAO

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Originally Posted by Wullie

After that little jaunt, I never got that pig over 70MPH.

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That goes for many of us.. Do it once or twice to get it out of your system like doing the magic 200 or seeing if the bike can hit 210.. 220.. 230.. But then you realize that doing 120 in the twisties is a heck of a lot more fun. (speeds that I'm talking about are in km/h, not mph)