Texas judge warns of civil war if Obama is re-elected

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Originally Posted by Crotalus

My judgement of Obama's governance is that he is about as far from a moderate as you can get. Shutting down coal mines, shutting down oil drilling, raising the hell out of CAFE standards, blocking the pipeline, giving fortunes to alternative energy companies that have no hope of succeeding, massive increase of government by creating unelected Czars, spending on an unprecedented scale, ignoring bankruptcy laws and taking over private companies and reorganizing them by handing them to unions, massing increases in regulation of private industry, intimidating companies by telling them "I'm all that stands between you and the pitchforks".

Oh yes, he's right down the middle alright.

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And don't forget, worst of all he ain't even an American. Why, if I wasn't retired and still worked for the INS I'd march right to the White House and put the handcuffs on him and lock him up in the nearest jail. When I got done with him he'd spill the beans about his true identity. Har har.

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Originally Posted by thebigspendur

And don't forget, worst of all he ain't even an American. Why, if I wasn't retired and still worked for the INS I'd march right to the White House and put the handcuffs on him and lock him up in the nearest jail. When I got done with him he'd spill the beans about his true identity. Har har.

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What?! You're ex INS? I am out of here...

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Originally Posted by earcutter

What?! You're ex INS? I am out of here...

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Relax...I'll sell you my green card...

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Originally Posted by gugi

A rational person would not care at all what somebody's beliefs are, only what their actions are. I know there are all these 'value voters' who care deeply to elect one of their own, however I'm old enough to know that the result is them simply getting taken for the proverbial ride.
All the bleeding hart liberals acted as if Obama is going to magically usher this Utopia, but as I expected nothing of the sort happened (one doesn't from when he started to where he ended by being naive) - he appointed people from the establishment and stayed pretty much in the middle of the road.
Likewise, despite those 'conservative family values' Romney had no problem with high-level gay officials running his campaign - the guy was forced to go away by external forces.


We've been through this before - I think you'd be better off if stop swallowing every propaganda hook, line, and sinker thrown your way and instead look at the things called facts, i.e. what happens in reality. Just a hint - when you set up a standard to measure somebody, try holding up 'your guys' to that same standard and see what happens.

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I quite satisfied that I know what the facts are when it comes to Obama. I didn't even mention his refusal to apply the law to the Black Panthers, his refusal and even blocking States from enforcing the immigration laws, and his recent Executive Order that just benefits BLACKS in school. Not underprivileged, not poor, not disadvantaged, just BLACKS.

These are FACTS as much as you wish to not believe them.

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Originally Posted by Crotalus

I quite satisfied that I know what the facts are when it comes to Obama. I didn't even mention his refusal to apply the law to the Black Panthers, his refusal and even blocking States from enforcing the immigration laws, and his recent Executive Order that just benefits BLACKS in school. Not underprivileged, not poor, not disadvantaged, just BLACKS.

These are FACTS as much as you wish to not believe them.

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In case you don't know what Crotalus is talking about - here is a story I pulled off of the Huff... just so you see that even a liberal rag wasn't all that happy about it.

Michael Meyers: Obama's Executive Order Puts Blacks In the Corner At the U.S. Department of Education

I personally think that two generations or 58 years isn't enough to fix what we have done to minority's in this country, and support the President... but YMMV.

*EDIT* done to "blacks" in this country.

What's more the New Black Panther party publicly put a bounty on George Zimmerman (the planet's one and only White Hispanic) after the Treyvon Martin incident. Naturally that was OK with Eric Holder. I can scarcely imagine the uproar if Bush's AG had refused to prosecute KKK members for voter intimidation. IMHO Obama, Holder and VP Gump...ur I mean Biden. Should all be jailed for corruption, dereliction of duty and treason.

Treason... seriously? Wow...

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Originally Posted by gssixgun

...Proper Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance

There is nothing wrong with being ready for any problem.. Natural or Manmade Go bags, or Bug out bags, are pretty common...

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I was thinking the other day about my tendency to think about the sort of 'head for the hills' situation the other day.
I'm no Rambo, but ten years in the Army sort of gives me a tendency to think about this sort of thing. I used to play 'conversation games' with the kids when we were camping saying 'OK, you've just seen the military motor bike that is the scout of a [Insert Large, close Asian country) invasion force. You've got two hours before the main force gets here. You've got everything we have here, what would you dump, buy and where would you go? This was often swapped for 'Three weapons only, post apocalyptic scenario, what weapons would you choose?'. I also spent time teaching them about 'vital ground' siting machine guns in defence, depth of fire and depth of defence. the top of Mount Torrens is our immediate 'go to place'. I could get up there and back in 28:24. Anyway, I was thinking if it was 'normal' to think about zombie apocolyptic type scenarios, and decided, given the talk and books etc, it was. I then decided that it was actually a fantasy, a fantasy many people (probably mainly men) had. I'd hazard a guess that it's a fantasy had by disenfranchised, maybe a little insecure, maybe a little isolated, maybe men. Maybe bored men. It's interesting what excitement wars seem to bring. At first. Before the bodies. In regards, though, to the original post, I can't imagine why a Judge would say such a thing. Clearly it's inciteful and clearly it's just an opinion and unhelpful. It does appear to me, though, that, from afar, the Us seems to be in trouble. Many delighted in 'the fall of communism' a while ago; I think we're seeing the fall of capitalism. There's a clear link between a society building ridiculously frivilous structures and its fall a little while later. We've seen that for centuries. Look at the structures in places like Dubei, China, etc. Those societies will fall soon. I'm not sure if America has such structures, such waste. It probably has, places like Las Vegas spring to mind. Is such frivilous spending diverting resources from what the society needs for 'bad' times? Maybe.

This is all just my ranting, drunken opinion...

PS, the best three weapons (according to Carl, Aaron and Joel) are:

A spear
A long bow
A knife

Although I wouldn't mind just tying the knife onto a stick to make a spear, and swapping the spear for an 7.62 SLR.

(I like the quote)...

Though I may agree to a large extent... here's what I got on my key-chain :)
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