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You've never really steered away from picking fights on the conservative vs. liberal front on this board...bluntly, at that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crotalus
But since you don't actually know from experiencing this, just posting politically biased media...think of it as the guy who lives in NJ is questioning Fox News moreso than you.
I don't believe that Crotalus is picking fights with liberals as much as, he feels strong about his view points. Maybe he has not realized that on any forum, converting an opposite opinion, is all but impossible; especially on religion, guns, government & now Unions, the latest battleground.
Remember Ryan, that "politically biased media" is just that to some & facts to others.
Ehh...but facts are facts...all media is worth questioning. Fox and MSNBC are both absolute rubbish...as far as I'm concerned they are only good to sometimes point you in the right direction to start looking for the facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hirlau
If you read the story, the repair crew was held up in Virginia and had to answer union questions before being allowed to do any work in NJ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hirlau
What happened to Obama's pledge to cut through red tape in the time of crisis?
I just find it absurd that a union was involved at all in telling a repair crew what they could do. Wouldn't that be more a job for a utility?
"Politically biased media?" Find me ANY media that doesn't have a political bias. They all do. People just deny it when the bias agrees with their own viewpoint.
I heard the newscast where the gents from AL were called SCABS, amongst other things and rudely informed that they were taking food from the mouths of union members and their families. I do NOT think that was made up as theater for the masses.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanjewell
My thoughts on this were that there were a LOT of people that had no power to cook any food they had left that wasn't already spoiled.
Yeah, I read it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Crotalus
"Decatur said in a separate statement following Hardin's comments that its crews were held in place in Virginia pending clarification of documents received from the IBEW that "implied a requirement of our employees to agree to union affiliation while working in the" New York and N.J. areas.
Decatur said that as it waited for clarification, "we became aware that Seaside Heights had received the assistance they needed from other sources. To be clear, at no time were our crews 'turned away' from the utility in Seaside Heights."
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""There have been reports that a nonunion crew was turned away from work in New Jersey," Hill said. "At this stage, it is not clear who is alleged to have turned the crew away and the company that employs the affected workers has denied the claim."
Earlier reports indicated two other Alabama utilities -- Huntsville Utilities and Joe Wheeler Cooperative -- were turned away from New Jersey due to union discrimination. However, those utilities have since denied those reports."
Sounds like a whole bunch of conjecture there to me and just leaves me with a bunch of unanswered questions...but if you swallow it whole and already are predisposed think a certain way, I'm sure it looks like a real smoking gun...
I am hesitant to enter this fracas. There is so much bias here you can cut it with a knife (or a razor). As has been intimated before, neither side is going to convince the other that he is right and the other wrong. Who here has "first hand" knowledge of anything that has been posted? If none, then all evidence and all arguments one way or the other are based upon mere conjecture and hearsay.
This particular post reminds me of the forthcoming "fiscal cliff" which the United States is headed toward. We bemoan the men and women of Congress for being unable to compromise. Yet I see here the same inability.
Suggestions have been made there is fault enough to go around to each side and still have plenty left over. Is it possible a consensus can be built around that idea and everyone can be happy with it? There are no evil unions or dastardly corporations. Just people trying to do the best they can at what they do with what they have.
Randy
Forget who is at fault,the bottom line is:18K people have lost a job,the world(those of the fat and unhealthy),are without twinkies and ho hos and whatever.
I am without wonder bread:(
Life will go on.
The strange thing is, I never missed the Twinkies, until they took them away. :hmmm:
I don't know about where you live Pixel, but there are still plenty of ho ho's around here. :D
Do not eat that crap,all that stuff will Keel you.Fritos,cheetos,doritos,serve me well:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hirlau