Organics found on Mars!

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Originally Posted by honedright

True. Is it a good idea to speculate on future ROI when you are in debt? I'd rather use my funds to pay my debts off and set my house in order before investing. It seems to me that governments make lousy stewards of other peoples money.

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America's ROI, for that matter the Worlds ROI when it comes to NASA is enormous!! Moreover - how do you put ROI price on man going to the moon? Well we do... and I bet were you to go back in time - American's would have been glad to pay ten times as much! That's called consumer surplus! Woot!!

But seriously, trickle-down does exist on R&D done by NASA. Every morning I wake up feeling better than ever because of the foams they developed :)! Seriously! :).

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Originally Posted by honedright

Since it wasn't your country that was attacked in 2001, I suppose I can understand your indifference about the war in Iraq. As to spending on NASA over caring for the needy, I think you should address that question to the needy. See if they would agree with you.

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Ok - that's just wrong! By that standard I guess you don't care what's going on in Israel, or what happened in Spain or... wrong. Just saying.

Also, we weren't attacked by Iraq. Iraq had nothing at all to do with it.

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Originally Posted by maddafinga

Also, we weren't attacked by Iraq. Iraq had nothing at all to do with it.

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Reminds me of this great Jackie Gleason quote!
the GOTDAMN GERMANS GOT NOTHIN TO DO WITH IT!! - YouTube

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Originally Posted by maddafinga

Also, we weren't attacked by Iraq. Iraq had nothing at all to do with it.

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The war was catalyzed by 911. Whether we were attacked by them or not is irrelevant. It was believed at the time by both the US and Britain that Iraq posed a severe threat.

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Originally Posted by honedright

The war was catalyzed by 911. Whether we were attacked by them or not is irrelevant. It was believed at the time by both the US and Britain that Iraq posed a severe threat.

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By that logic, the U.S. should have attacked and invaded Columbia after the Battle of Oahu. Sheesh!:aargh:

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Originally Posted by mapleleafalumnus

By that logic, the U.S. should have attacked and invaded Columbia after the Battle of Oahu. Sheesh!:aargh:

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To reinforce that point. One of the reasons popularized by the media was that the Iraq was friendly to terrorists. So the Philippines have a very high Taliban presence. Should we attack them?

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Originally Posted by mapleleafalumnus

By that logic, the U.S. should have attacked and invaded Columbia after the Battle of Oahu. Sheesh!:aargh:

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Kind of a straw man argument.

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Originally Posted by honedright

Kind of a straw man argument.

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So was Bush's. The biggest difference is mine didn't kill any innocents.

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Originally Posted by mapleleafalumnus

So was Bush's. The biggest difference is mine didn't kill any innocents.

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Now an ad hominem plus the fallacy of appeal to pity.

Merely a statement of fact.