wine only want to try beer though
I made wine for about 3 or 4 years in a row back when I lived in the bay area and had relatively easy access to pretty outstanding grapes. I took it up mainly to develop patience (knowing that it takes a long time from start to finish and that this would be instructive to the youngster I was then). It was a fantastic experience and if I ever end up back in the bay area again (about 50/50 odds I suppose) I will surely do it again. I got rid of my old gear but if I were to start again I would do it much differently and with better gear this time around. We'll see. I highly recommend this to anyone who has access to good grapes and either a reasonably accommodating climate or a place with relatively stable temp (like a basement or similar).
Beer I have never tried and frankly am not too crazy about most beer I tried but once I tried a beer that my friend made and it was the nuttiest, most lively and flavorful beer I ever had. He told me he won some award with it and based on the flavor I never doubted that for a minute. Maybe once the kid is a bit bigger I'll have time to give it a shot and I'd very much like to do that although I think it would take several attempts before making anything in the same league with that stuff my friend made. Even then I'm not sure I could do it but would like to try.