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If you want to carry IWB, check out Stealthgear. I've tried pretty much everything and of them all. the Stealthgear StealthGearUSA - Holsters, Mag Carriers & More SIG SAUER P320 SUB-COMPACT W/RAIL NO ACCESSORY VENTCORE Holsters - Holstersis the most comfortable. I carry a S&W M&P Shield 9mm in it. For really lightweight summer clothes I carry a S&W M&P Bodyguard 380 in a DeSantis Superfly Pocket holster.
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rhensley
I've contacted Galco through email and ask for info on a holster and they currently don't have one but are working on it. I carry in the HK holster but it is difficult to get out and back in. I really like the feel of leather but may have to go to the plastic. don't know yet.
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Ha, JimmyHAD. Yeah right now I am hearing what is either cicadas or electric line buzzing. It's all day, all night, all the time. I didn't know or think to plug up my ears back in the day. 30-30's make a helluva sound opposite the bidness end. I can't blame it all on shooting though. Hammering on iron and using grinders does it too. Oh to go back and undo it. :boohoo:
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HCpawpaw
Ha, JimmyHAD. Yeah right now I am hearing what is either cicadas or electric line buzzing. It's all day, all night, all the time. I didn't know or think to plug up my ears back in the day. 30-30's make a helluva sound opposite the bidness end. I can't blame it all on shooting though. Hammering on iron and using grinders does it too. Oh to go back and undo it. :boohoo:
I'll give you a + 1 on that too pawpaw ...... I was a union ironworker doing structural steel erection for 20 years. Driving pins, beating on iron. I've worked on bridges where we changed out the old rivets for high strength bolts, knocking them out with an old rivet gun the correct name of which is a 'ninety', but the nickname is 'Hell Dog', cause that is what it sounded like. :gaah:
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Bruno
Perhaps a silly question, but is the sound a factor in deciding what to carry?
It's something I discussed with Bob Allman at the TX meet.
After having shot 44 magnum with full ear protection, I could not help but wonder what would happen if I'd shoot it in an enclosed space without protection. Probably be deaf for a long time after just the first shot. So since CCW is done with the assumption that you could need to shoot in any scenario such as indoors, is this something you considered in your choices?
I recently made a very stupid mistake and had a "negligent discharge" (I F---d up) of my 9mm carry pistol in my home office, which is about 10 x 12 feet. Luckily nothing and one one was hurt except my pride and an old piece of furniture, a ream of copier paper that was in it and the plastic tray that held the paper, but my ears rung for a day, then echoed when any loud noise happened for another 2 or 3 days, then died down to the occasional "crickets" Jimmy described for a few weeks. It was a full month before my "normal" 68 year old hearing came back to my normal. If it's in a dark room at night, you're going to be blinded by muzzle flash too. LEOs that I know who have had such incidents said in the adrenaline rush of the moment you don't notice and keep operating, but when it's over it's like "oh, sh*t, that was bad".
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I can't say that I've ever considered sound level when choosing a carry piece.
Maximum stopping power and concealability are the most important factors for me.
Pete <:-}
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One can't hear anything...when dead!
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Another Armed Citizen Saves Himself And Others
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Armed Grandma Defends Home From 3 Invaders
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JimmyHAD
I'll give you a + 1 on that too pawpaw ...... I was a union ironworker doing structural steel erection for 20 years. Driving pins, beating on iron. I've worked on bridges where we changed out the old rivets for high strength bolts, knocking them out with an old rivet gun the correct name of which is a 'ninety', but the nickname is 'Hell Dog', cause that is what it sounded like. :gaah:
I have taken into consideration shooting inside our home. Bright muzzle flash/defense light flash in dark hallway needs to be considered too. Har! First test of combat light in dark hallway without thinking against light colored wall.
:overkill:
We keep ear protection close to our weapons in hopes there will be time but don't count on it in a real rush. Use lower slower loads for in house use for reduced pop and wall penetration. Half way through the stack the ammo's load go big and full on. Har! ;)
$ilencer$ can help but come with their own baggage.
Vietnam was the start for me (SF) and using air driven impact tools doing heavy power line work finished toasting my ears. Early 90s they started addressing the issue and ear protective is part of all PPE now. You see people mowing their lawns with ear protection these days. Great stuff.
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This has huge implications if passed
GOP lawmaker introduces bill to allow lawmakers to carry guns
The next logical step would be National recognition of all CCW holders just like your DL
Can you imagine not having to double check all the Reciprocity laws for your trip to see where you can and can't carry ...
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gssixgun
This has huge implications if passed
GOP lawmaker introduces bill to allow lawmakers to carry guns
The next logical step would be National recognition of all CCW holders just like your DL
Can you imagine not having to double check all the Reciprocity laws for your trip to see where you can and can't carry ...
It would be nice if the bill passed & it opened a door that led to a "nation wide" carry permit(preferable in my opinion) or recognition of state carry permits among all states(I don't see this ever happening in all states).
If it is passed , I see it following the path of HR-218 that Bush Jr. signed in 2004. Giving carry rights to Congressmen & Senators, who most will not carry regardless.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/108th-...house-bill/218
The bill is a knee jerk reaction to the incident , sadly.
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Not a good idea. What would the criminals in Chicago, DC, NYC do if everyone were given the opportunity to defend themselves ? :shrug:
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A national CCW IMO would seem to reflect what I would argue most people would say the intent of 2A was. A move toward federalizing anything from education, health care, etc gets my Spidey senses tingling.....my concern would be what would seem like shoring up individual freedom with national CCW today could perhaps be messed with in the future from a federal level hurting individual freedom at some point?? It's a dilemma to be sure.
I'm torn on the idea. Certainly it would be more convenient and more free to travel anywhere in the U.S. without having to preemptively navigate each state's current laws on the issue. I'm just wondering if federalizing something that has a positive effect today could open a door for having an even greater negative effect 'tomorrow'.....
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Originally Posted by
gssixgun
This has huge implications if passed
GOP lawmaker introduces bill to allow lawmakers to carry guns
The next logical step would be National recognition of all CCW holders just like your DL
Can you imagine not having to double check all the Reciprocity laws for your trip to see where you can and can't carry ...
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Originally Posted by
Hirlau
It would be nice if the bill passed & it opened a door that led to a "nation wide" carry permit(preferable in my opinion) or recognition of state carry permits among all states(I don't see this ever happening in all states).
If it is passed , I see it following the path of HR-218 that Bush Jr. signed in 2004. Giving carry rights to Congressmen & Senators, who most will not carry regardless.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/108th-...house-bill/218
The bill is a knee jerk reaction to the incident , sadly.
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Originally Posted by
ChrisL
A national CCW IMO would seem to reflect what I would argue most people would say the intent of 2A was. A move toward federalizing anything from education, health care, etc gets my Spidey senses tingling.....my concern would be what would seem like shoring up individual freedom with national CCW today could perhaps be messed with in the future from a federal level hurting individual freedom at some point?? It's a dilemma to be sure.
I'm torn on the idea. Certainly it would be more convenient and more free to travel anywhere in the U.S. without having to preemptively navigate each state's current laws on the issue. I'm just wondering if federalizing something that has a positive effect today could open a door for having an even greater negative effect 'tomorrow'.....
I understood Glen's post # 1211 to focus around the possibility of easing the conditions of "Concealed Carry" from state to state. My post was not to dive into legalities of a national carry permit , nor will I discuss the intent of the 2nd Amendment , as I understand it to be.
My post was simply to state that the possibility of a national carry permit was there, but extremely remote.
I will not discuss gun control through the use of permits; prohibited by SRP rules of conduct on firearms threads.
In this thread we can discuss permits and how or where to obtain them. We can link to laws that guide their use; that's about it.