KMG Horizontal/Vertical grinder

I've lately seen a few ask about being to able to turn their vertical grinder into a horizontal one. The Bader grinder has a hinge attachment one can buy to make the grinder go horizontal. I've seen a few pics of it and it does work. Someone I know has it working too in his shop.

The KMG doesn't. So I asked my local friend, welder and genius at what he does to make my KMG flip horizontal.

He built me a dedicated table from 9/32" thick steel. All I can say, it works flawless. I'm still waiting for him to built the horizontal work rest but in the meantime I'm already making good use of it.

One thing's for sure. It will be the last thing standing if they drop the A-bom. That table is as sturdy as they come. I bet it all weights a few hundred pounds.

Here's a video of my setup and a few pics.

YouTube - KMG Horizontal/vertical grinder

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This is huge.
I don't care how much they cost, I want a Max razor.
Thank you, have a nice day.

Super cool, Max! Your friend did a GREAT job on that... I definitely have shop envy right now!

Can't wait to see what you crank out with that setup. :D

Wow! that is one sweet tool. It looks it like will be very useful. I like the solid thunk when you lock it in place, heavy duty and precise.

Charlie

i still a not sure what great new world of grinding im missing out on by not having a horz. grinder

Butch, you should watch some of the videos at KMG for the horizontal grinder. It should give you an idea. It's extremely precise and useful for all the spine, tang, monkey tail and profiling work for example. Sure you could buy a MAP or try to go vertical and freehand. Nobody says you need one. Many do without. The ones that can go horizontal love it. I sure make good use of it.

when i need ot i jsut scab together a few bars of steel and make a vert. work rest that i can movearound for the different wheels and plattens i have

not sure i can see spending $$ on the MAP arm tho cool
if it tells you anything about me i dont even take the time to make jigs for work in the shop :)

guess what i want to know is how you ajust the table to get use out of all the belt and just not the center ?

I am so jealous of your custom stand Max. That thing is AWESOME!!! :)

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Originally Posted by L R Harner

guess what i want to know is how you ajust the table to get use out of all the belt and just not the center ?

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Butch,
I'll update this thread with pictures when I get my workrest back but in a nutshell it's very simple. The workrest which off course is made horizontal can be adjusted up or down. You can also keep the work rest steady but use the tracking of the grinder to go up or down just like in KMG's video. The workrest itself has different cut-outs so it can be used for the small wheel attachment or bigger wheels. One side stays flat to be used for the platen

cool i love pics
BTW tho i might seem to be comming of a a bit of an ass but i liek your setup way better then gettting a whole new grinder that is of limited use (less you need that type of thing every day )

I agree with Butch maybee im missing out on something time will tell . The only thing I dont like about it is the Vfd will never last being below the grinding area the sparks /metal dust would be hard on it and I know that vfd is like 500 bucks cuzz I just bought one. Im thinking of putting mine on the wall in a covered box with ventilation to keep it from over heating . I love the bench idea being moveable .

You may consider using a bucket with water or a dust collection system under your wheel or platen when grinding. I have yet to see any sparks hit anything else. You did pay for a Nema 4 with your VFD. It provides a degree of protection especially as a dust proof enclosure.
As to the usefulness of a horizontal grinder. It just means you have not come to a few situations in your designs or grinding where you thought about different ways to perfect something and make your work flow easier. After all you are foremost a knife maker I presume and since I'm not into knife making at all it could well be that it has no use for it or very little. But it seems many knife makers do make use of it.

Max, could you throw some dirt on the floor and take some new pictures?
I'm having a hard time understanding that I'm looking at pictures of a shop. ;)

I don't do any grinding, but the stand looks pretty cool. It looks like there's some kind of piston to offset the weight of the grinder when it rotates? Brilliant design.

Max I have a King industrial dust collector with a 10 micron paper canister air filter. I keep it right beside my computer and is so good that I have never had to wipe any dust off my computer in over a year. Kellyw

It is indeed useful. Mine's a Delta with a 1 micron top filter bag and it sure does a great job. I also use it for other tools. Couldn't be without it.

Max sorry to dissagree but I had the same 1 micron bag and its crap . When I sanded wood or steel my computer was covered every day so bad I left the windex and paper towel on my desk and wiped it down daily. I have had phemonia 3 times once chemical and was bleeding in my lungs very bad . Most the woods and horn cause lung disease one type or another. I wear a full face 3m 6800 filter mask with an organic/carbon filter good for some gases and all dust. I run my dust collector with in 1 ft of my grinder and you can see the flow of dust as I sand. I will tell you this your lungs are a rare commodity spend the 250 dollars on the 10 micron canister and youll never look back .