"Why Barbers Do Not Shave Anymore?" as told by a Barber

Aloha!

You genlemen may find this interesting. All of the Barbers I have been to over the years always told me it was "Blood Born Pathogens" that stopped them from shaving. This article states otherwise. It's his take (as a Barber) on why Barbers no longer shave. I've had a few "Shavette" shaves over the years, but I really do miss a straight razor shave by a Barber. The old fashioned way. Those were the best. The last one I had was 1995 ish.

The article: https://fromthebarberschair.wordpres...barbers-shave/

-Zip

There's still some that do around me. Some of the guys I've worked with go to them for shaves. I use a straight razor myself and couldn't bring myself to let someone else shave me.

I have been in for quite a few hot shaves. Many areas they can use a straight razor, most choose to use a shavette or disposable blade razor simply because it is more simple. The price rang varies a lot. Haircuts hang around $20 but shaves are around $50 so shave and a haircut $70. There is no shortage of people lining up in the cities, and you may have to wait more than 24 hours for an appointment. Of course I can get a nice shave on my own but the rest of the treatment is tough to provide otherwise. I have paid as much as $90 for a shave. My first hot shave was an old Italian barber in the big city, near the waterfront. It was not as long on the treatment but a great shave, it was the mid 80's and it was $20. I do realize the regions are different and on the coast we pay a lot more for a lot of stuff.

In the olden days before the safety razor men who did not have the dexterity to handle a straight had no choice but to go to a barber every so often. In those days most men would go to the barber's once or twice a week for a shave. Especially the less wealthy. Nowadays most men like to shave every day. Going to a barber every day is unaffordable for many. Moreover, we seem to be in a hurry all the time: so much to do, so little time. A decent barber's shave takes half an hour, DIY shave 5-10 minutes at most.

Aloha!

I often wonder what it was like shaving in the old west. We see Barbers dipicted in Westerns shaving cowboys all the time. That makes good television but I don't think it was all that common for your regular cowboy to go to the barbershop for a shave. But can you imaging shaving "On the trail" with a straight razor, soap and a mirror? No aftershave as we know it, or any sanitary ways to keep the razor clean, and probably a simple hone for semi-sharpening the blade at best. There must have been a lot of infections from nicks and cuts back then. Either that or men waited for their weekly bath at a bath house, to also go to the barber and get a weekly shave.

Kinda funny there Zip, a friend of mine has "Cat House" coins from the late 1700's early 1800's.

They are wooden for the most part, one side says $1. The other says "Good for 1 shot, shave & screw"
Dang things don't mention the bath part :rofl2: :dropjaw:

That's funny, Dave! Nothing new under the sun as they say. Even our great great grandfathers needed a little "R&R" so to speak.

Some states it's just too much trouble to live by the rules of a straight shave, hence shavettes.

As to shaving in the old days I don't know how much different, I,m not sanitizing my razors now, I shave with them, mostly just tap water warm, wipe it down and stick it in my safe. They only get dipped in the blue stuff when I first get them, now years later I haven't done anything to them. I think you hit already, the old cowboy just waited till bath time or if he was a clean shaven guy all the time, a small mirror and his razor lather and brush was all he needed. He had plenty of leather to strop on with his saddle, and when he seen town there was always a guy who honed razors around.

My dad was one of those guys who went to the barber for his shaves and trim, his own mug of soap and brush were left at the shop, he usually did a Monday, and a Saturday , in between he'd still shave with his razor at home(DE, and then electric) But those barber shops have just about vanished. Tc

I used to go to the barber by me once a month as a treat to myself for a hair cut and shave. The hot towel, the cream, the face massage, the works. The last time I went the price went up to $30 plus you leave a $5 tip for the job well done. $35!! I used to pay $8 for all of the above (that was some years ago, granted) that's $420 a year! Think of all the razors and such I could buy for $420....hmmm. all in all it helped me to get back into shaving again

Some of the commercial boats I have worked on were rather light on amenities. Ten days off shore, a bath, a haircut, and a shave were not only great, they were needed before heading out on the town.

I read an account of a young sailors experiences on an American merchant ship in the mid-eighteenth century. The book was Two Years Before the Mast by Richard Henry Dana. Shaving is mentioned a couple of times as part of a weekly bathing routine. On Sunday the sailors were supposed to have the day off to clean up, mend clothes, read the Bible, write letters, etc. If they were lucky enough they got shore leave for the day. In one instance Dana recalled a sailor making the mistake of shaving before asking the Captain for shore leave. The leave was not granted and the author remarked that it was always best to wait to shave until after leave was given to not anger the Captain by taking it for granted.

Several points used to illustrate why barbers don't do straight shaves in the OP's link annoyed me. I think the point about missing the bus because a shave was added to a haircut is exaggerated. I never go to the barber before I have to be somewhere because I know it's very likely I will have to wait 20 minutes to an hour for my turn to come up. The point about straight razors causing irritation because they are made from an alloy is just baloney.

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Originally Posted by tcrideshd

Some states it's just too much trouble to live by the rules of a straight shave, hence shavettes.

As to shaving in the old days I don't know how much different, I,m not sanitizing my razors now, I shave with them, mostly just tap water warm, wipe it down and stick it in my safe. They only get dipped in the blue stuff when I first get them, now years later I haven't done anything to them. I think you hit already, the old cowboy just waited till bath time or if he was a clean shaven guy all the time, a small mirror and his razor lather and brush was all he needed. He had plenty of leather to strop on with his saddle, and when he seen town there was always a guy who honed razors around.

My dad was one of those guys who went to the barber for his shaves and trim, his own mug of soap and brush were left at the shop, he usually did a Monday, and a Saturday , in between he'd still shave with his razor at home(DE, and then electric) But those barber shops have just about vanished. Tc

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Aloha!

I hear what you are saying. But really, shaving put a man at much greater risk of illness and death in the "Olden Days". More people died from nicks and cuts that became infected with Sepsis than most people are aware of. And then there was Anthrax infestation of Horsehair and Badger shaving brushes. This was a big problem that today is only a distant memory. Today, we are in a totally different world with sanitation and antibiotics and regulation.

Lord Carnarvon died in 1922 shortly after peering into King Tut's Tomb after he nicked a mosquito bite with his razor and it became infected with Sepsis, starting the "Curse of King Tut" legend.

John Thoreau (brother of Henry David Thoreau) died in 1841 after he nicked himself with his razor and came down with Lockjaw.

Liquor magnate Michael Farley died in 1921 after he was infected with Antrax from his Barber's Badger brush.

There was a real possibility of complications and death from shaving in the early 20th century and preceeding centuries. We're light years ahead of this by comparison.

-Zip

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Originally Posted by ZipZop

Lord Carnarvon died in 1922 shortly after peering into King Tutt's Tomb after he nicked a mosquito bite with is razor and it became infected with Sepsis, starting the "Curse of King Tut" legend.

John Thoreau (brother of Henry David Thoreau) died in 1841 after he nicked himself with his razor and came down with Lockjaw.

Liquor magnate Michael Farley died in 1921 after he was infected with Antrax from his Barber's Badger brush.

There was a real possibility of complications and death from shaving in the early 20th century and preceeding centuries. We're light years ahead of this by comparison.

-Zip

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Thanks Zip! The first one I did not know. The others are quite interesting too.

Yes we are light years ahead today, but going backwards with over use in my opinion

Ya now we just die from diseases from eating food that is not home grown, or killed by radiation. or Take so many pills that have other side effects or doctors pushing more surgeries,, ya I think we aren't doing so well. But I guess it's the sign of the times, we think we're better off, maybe we are but I don't think that history will prove a plague killed all the old west Cowboys to straight shaves. Wasn't that long ago a bunch of s were shaving in a jungle that wasn't so sanitary either,, me and a bunch are still here. My brush may not have had Anthrax but does buffalo shit count? Tc

I don't agree with the article.

In most states using a straight is not allowed but using a disposable is not a problem. What is a problem is barber schools haven't taught using a straight for many years. The few that do only give it lip service.

Folks spend money as they see fit and plenty would spend for a Competent shave. Those outfits that give you "the treatment" have no problem filling their chairs no matter the price.

The article was an interesting read. I don't agree with some of it & the author is a bit opinionated.

Here in Texas it is legal to use a straight razor but very few do. My barber is a third gen. barber and uses a disposable blade because he does not want to invest the time for maintenance. He says he gets about 6 shave requests a week and he gives the full treatment with each. Most customers requesting a shave (he says about 90%) are 60+ yrs old. We talked about it last week as he was finishing a shave on a long time customer who just started SR shaving when he retired. He stated that his younger customers are in too much of a hurry and don't wish to spend the time. His rates are very reasonable ($16.50) so the cost , I don't think, is the determining factor. At least not with him. Nice old style barbershop. He has rebuilt all his chairs himself. They all date from the 20's to mid 50's. His personal chair is wood. Says it is the first model offered with pneumatic lift and all came from his grandfather's original barbershop.

A couple of months ago I've been to Truefitt and Hill shoppe in St.James's st. in London, and one definitely could have a shave there (I haven't, although I did leave there equally considerable sum ;) ). Of course it has all the appearances of Victorian Gentlemen's Club, but they do cherish the tradition. Sadly, D.R.Harris and Taylor of Old Bond Street nearby didn't spotted similar facilities :( Sic transit...
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