Watch This :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b_nRYltQ-Y
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Watch This :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b_nRYltQ-Y
Hours of grinding and tradition.
No, just the push of a button ha ha.
Thanks for sharing this Joe. Explains a lot about the manufacture of Dovos.
Your welcome..Quote:
Originally Posted by markbignosekelly
Makes me wonder about Wacker , i have yet to hone one with a perfect grind.
I agree. I always wanted one, because they look rather nice online. Ordered a 'all around', the spine within the 'honing plain' was thicker than the rest of the blade, (kinda like most Gold dollars are) the razor was honed by the vendor and it was shave ready all except the heel, and that it due to the variation of the spine, it would need hone wear to 'fix'. It didn't set well on the hones, it rocked like a rocking chair.. Also the razor had to be guided closed because the blade did not close center, and you had to be care no to dull the blade when closing. Not a 200.00 razor by no means.Quote:
Originally Posted by JOB15
Also got a Best tradition Wacker, it had a very bad bad wavy frown in the edge, it was supposed to be a round point, but very very far from it. Sent both back!!
IMO - who is king of modern day production razors? I will tell you Ralf Aust is King, with a capital 'K'!
Here's another look at how DOVO makes razors. It's in German but the steps are quite well illustrated--I hope all will enjoy.Quote:
Originally Posted by JOB15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo
Please watch this educational video...Thank you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a7ItjBXa-A
I will have to agree about Aust. I used to think Revisor was up there too, but was disappointed a few times recently and cannot recommend them anymore. I lucked out on a great 7/8 Revisor I bought about 7 years ago, probably made by Werner Breidenbach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Southbound
My advice is to not buy a modern production razor unless you actually see pictures of the razor that is actually going to be sent to you.
Dovo is currently under new ownership.
That explains why the heels can be an issue: They don't quite get in between the 2 grind wheels or they do but for less time than other parts of the blade.Quote:
Originally Posted by cudarunner
Edwin Jagger Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efiwDWhYPJ0
Interesting Ralf Aust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hH4qYqbgdg
Dovo has a new youtube channel.
I think these videos are nonsense to guys like us...I would not use a hairdryer because of warping the scales.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XoUjhAHkT8
...a mixture of gold and water... LOL! That's my favorite punchline from this vid.Quote:
Originally Posted by JOB15
This is comic on so many levels! But the steps and methods are mostly the same way Dovo has been making razors for quite some time but they never showed the die forging before, in any Dovo factory video I have seen. So that was interesting, anyway. I just wish I could "unhear" a few things I heard on this one. THanks for posting that.
Doing some research and i found this George Ibberson video..
I have a few Ibberson penknives and they are the excellent quality.. The fella sharpening has the title of the "Whetter" i like it.
https://www.yfanefa.com/record/3922
I've had this video saved in my bookmarks for a few years, always go back to watch it every now and again, wonder what stone the Whetter was using, looked pretty thick.Quote:
Originally Posted by JOB15
Here's a few videos you may be interested in:
Billy Hukin grinding a razor, Sheffield - vimeo.com/268814380
Knife Grinding in Sheffield - vimeo.com/268813413
Fork Polisher - vimeo.com/268813263
Cutler at Joseph Elliott and Sons - vimeo.com/268813061
Big beardy bloke teaches you all about shaving :hmmm:
An interesting video on sheffield pen knives.
He shows how they used to make and set inlays onto buffalo scales. This must be the same method for all those old razors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ygT8HinVA8
Thanks for sharing everybody, lovely collection of videos. Always a pleasure to watch a true craftsman do his work.
The drill he uses to cut the inlay hole is sometimes called a fiddle-bow. There's a modern video from, if memory serves me correctly, Taylors Eye Witness, where they still use some of the same tools including the fiddle-bow, at least on their premium pocket knife line which is very much handmade. Ken Hawley really did a lot for us by filming and recording the various cutlery trades in Sheffield before they all pretty much disappeared. Kind of sad, I saw a lot of this manufacturing decline because my father was a Millman for many big steel works, he worked at Round Oak which at one point was one of the largest rolling mills in Europe. A lot of steel was made and you can bet a lot ended up in Sheffield made cutlery before the big downturn in the late 70's when imports really started picking up, deindustrialization through into the 80's, etc. Anyway Round Oak was literally bulldozed over and turned into a shopping complex called Merry Hill. Work dried up so much my father ended up working in Libya for a couple years training guys over there to run the steel works at Misrata which afaik, until the recent troubles was the most productive steelworks on the African continent. They say that's progress but seeing it firsthand, I'm not so sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by JOB15
You can see this clearly at the 4.50 mark but at that stage of the grinding he is removing metal from inside the faces which creates the full hollow grind so it wouldn't actually affect the heel that much. It's the bigger wheels he uses before that where if he didn't reach the heel it would be more of an issue but I couldn't tell for sure. I'm not sure how it was then but if you look at a modern drop forged razor blank, the hollowing of the blade is put in at forging, When grinding, if you're bumping up against the forging line between the hollow at the heel and the tang, in that case you would leave the heel thicker, or grind away too much in front. How much of this is to do with the stabilizer I don't know, obviously the German makers felt that you needed the stabilizer there but I think a shoulderless grind is superior.Quote:
Originally Posted by JOB15
I totally agree on the shoulderless.Quote:
Originally Posted by thp001
I did watch a load of Ken Hawley films yesterday, really interesting.. Started off with films on Laguiole knives :)
Interesting .