Mujingfang C-nat (C12k?)

Hi, sorry to bump/hijack an old thread.
New member and newbie honer here. I was trying to find a "c12k" stone locally in Australia (tried carbatec but they dont seem to have it online) and came across the same Mujingfang stone hereMujingfang Natural Water Sharpening Stone - 13,000+ Grit - Fine Tools Australia
Being on a tight budget, I just wanted to clarify whether the Mujingfang is able to produce the same results as the typical c12k that you would get from woodcraft before i buy it :) or if there is another place locally i can get a c12k.

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Originally Posted by globabob

Hi, sorry to bump/hijack an old thread.
New member and newbie honer here. I was trying to find a "c12k" stone locally in Australia (tried carbatec but they dont seem to have it online) and came across the same Mujingfang stone hereMujingfang Natural Water Sharpening Stone - 13,000+ Grit - Fine Tools Australia
Being on a tight budget, I just wanted to clarify whether the Mujingfang is able to produce the same results as the typical c12k that you would get from woodcraft before i buy it :) or if there is another place locally i can get a c12k.

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It is the same stone that woodcraft sells.

I thought the preferred term for these hones was PHIG ;)

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Originally Posted by globabob

Hi, sorry to bump/hijack an old thread.
New member and newbie honer here. I was trying to find a "c12k" stone locally in Australia (tried carbatec but they dont seem to have it online)

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Did you ring them ? They sold them for years. I know I bought a few & the 2" wide ones were only $15 but that's 6 years ago .

Thanks for the input guys :)

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Originally Posted by onimaru55

Did you ring them ? They sold them for years. I know I bought a few & the 2" wide ones were only $15 but that's 6 years ago .

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Nope, haven't tried ringing them but I shall try tomorrow morning. Hopefully the one in Sydney has them in stock.
Did you buy yours online or in person?
Cheers

I'm not onimaru, but if I were you, I'd buy in person and from my experience, I'd open a few boxes and look for stones that appear to have something that looks like stretch marks on them. Those are harder and better than the ones with a plain blah surface.

I'd pay $50 for a big one like that without a second thought, but I wouldn't give $5 for one that's soft, other than maybe to cut up and make naguras.

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Originally Posted by globabob

Thanks for the input guys :)
Nope, haven't tried ringing them but I shall try tomorrow morning. Hopefully the one in Sydney has them in stock.
Did you buy yours online or in person?
Cheers

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No I went there. Online you can get any rubbish they wanna send . :)
Some stones I saw were fresh cut with saw lines still on them.
It will still be a lucky dip to buy in person but you can save yourself some lapping.

What retailer are you guys using in Australia....carbatec?

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Originally Posted by DaveW

What retailer are you guys using in Australia....carbatec?

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They were the only retailer selling this stone here that I know of & much cheaper than buying o/s at the time.

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Originally Posted by onimaru55

They were the only retailer selling this stone here that I know of & much cheaper than buying o/s at the time.

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Yeah, was just curious about that. There have been things that carbatec had that I wished I could get from them, and there have been others that are clearly the same chinese put-any-label-on-it-you-want types of tools that carbatec sells that we get over here with a different sticker.

The fine tools aus link appears to be a lot of knock-off goods like quangsheng planes, etc, who originally copied lie-nielsen planes almost dead copy (except where they came up short) and eventually had to modify their tools to stay away from getting in legal trouble, to be copies of older stanley planes without changes that LN made.

Alibaba has a minimum quantity of 100 of those big muji stones if one would want to get them at distributor's price. I'd be curious to know what their price is on them.

I can't and don't order things from carbatec because most of the stuff is similar here, and the shipping from australia to here and here to australia is priced to the moon. Quangsheng planes are marketed by woodcraft here with a large markup, and with the "Team colors" from lie nielsen taken off (the bronze parts are steel or cast iron instead).