Thuringian bout stones

All of the hone lovers I think know coticule bout stones that are sold in addition to the normal rectangular stones which are mainly used for straight razor honing today. Bout stones are a normally cheaper alternative and with a little experience also good usable for razor honing. About hundred or fifty years ago, bout coticules were more common and mainly in use, at least for the common folks. Rectangular stones were used by professional sharpeners and honers mostly.

Less or even not known is, that also thuringian stones were sold as bout stones in the past.

Following shows a copy of a JGES catalogue for the exhibition in Leipzig 1952. The bouts are called "Thüringer Brocken" in anlogy to the coticules that are called "Belgische Brocken" in german :


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And here are some bout thuringians:

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The thuringian bouts were also called german bouts, "Deutsche Brocken" which is shown in the following copy of a catalogue of the Deutsche Schleifmittel AG (Henk thanks for the copy!). The Schleifmittel AG was founded 1923 from the companies Escher&Co, Pike and Escher and others.

The german bouts are here promoted as an alternative for coticules for sharpening woodworking tools and butcher knifes (this was at least in Germany the main application of coticules 50 years ago). The german bouts are sold in different qualities. It is mentioned in the description, that ..... the stones could have small flower-like enclaves but that these do not affect the sharpening or honing qualities - contrary to harmfully streaks and veins in coticules..... :deal:


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Some more bout pictures:


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Again a Big "Thank You" and Thumbs Up for all your efforts and all the information you bring on here and anywhere else on all the Thuringian Stones and their History !!!!

It seems obvious that these would exist but I never considered or knew that they did. I've certainly never seen one before. Thanks for posting this!

I have never used one,

A pitty you should do :-)

Nice post, Thank you.

I would like to find one.

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Originally Posted by hatzicho

The thuringian bouts were also called german bouts, "Deutsche Brocken" which is shown in the following copy of a catalogue of the Deutsche Schleifmittel AG (Henk thanks for the copy!). The Schleifmittel AG was founded 1923 from the companies Escher&Co, Pike and Escher and others.

The german bouts are here promoted as an alternative for coticules for sharpening woodworking tools and butcher knifes (this was at least in Germany the main application of coticules 50 years ago). The german bouts are sold in different qualities. It is mentioned in the description, that ..... the stones could have small flower-like enclaves but that these do not affect the sharpening or honing qualities - contrary to harmfully streaks and veins in coticules..... :deal:


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Some more bout pictures:


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Awesome stones!! Sorry about posting to this old thread, just cruising through them and saw these... I have a thuringian stone I purchased from thuringian.de it was a good size chunk that didn't quite fit me right so I cut it down to a good size and discovered that it was a hybrid? meaning it seems to have all the layers in it from a dark blue to yellow it's very nice... have a great day..

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here is picture of my thuri bout
approx 4.5"x2"x9mm

Griffith Shave has them sometimes.

Just had a re-hone and shave off of my Yellow-green Escher last night. Absolutely outstanding shave as usual. If someone can't afford a fancy labeled stone they should still at least try to get one of these bouts, they are fantastic razor stones. If you can't get a good edge from one of these you are doing something wrong somewhere in your progression.

are they newly mined or vintage?

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are they newly mined or vintage?

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Vintage end cuts and leftovers from the original mined stones.

Went looking for these and didnt come up with anything. Guess id do some more looking. If they are vintage that would be nice.

I don't see any available anywhere right now, but one just sold on the bay a week or so ago. They are out there from time to time. The hunt if part of the fun. Good luck.

for anyone interested
Thuringian Waterhones

This guy is usually selling thuri bouts and he gets new ones pretty often it seems. Would check there every week or so if you are looking

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Originally Posted by Christian1

for anyone interested
Thuringian Waterhones

This guy is usually selling thuri bouts and he gets new ones pretty often it seems. Would check there every week or so if you are looking

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Yes that is Peter (Hatzicho) the one who started this thread.

Has nothing at the moment but ill have to keep checking back. Im thinking a bout would be nice for my collection.
Thanks for the link!

It's real hard to do too much with one,, but your new Zulu will give an almost identical edge too. If you get a good one. Tc

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Originally Posted by tcrideshd

It's real hard to do too much with one,, but your new Zulu will give an almost identical edge too. If you get a good one. Tc

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How do you use your Zulu? Slurry, water, oil ---------?

Slurry on my pre finish side, and clear water to dry on the finish side, couple hundred laps,, just like any of the hard rocks like Arks And Thuringians Tc

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Here is my little combo.

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Another view.

New arrival

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Bringing up an older thread, I know. Necroposting. Ha.

I contacted Peter and just got my order in today. 2 Thuringian Bouts with rubbers. The rubbers are small so that we could keep the post under the weight limit. One is YellowGreen (2.25 x 6.5), the other is Green (3.25 x 4.75). Measurements are in inches and at the widest point and the colors dont look right on my monitor. I'm hoping this will make my H.A.D. stay calm for a while. With these and the recent Jnats, I think I in good shape. Unless I can talk Rez out of one of his stones. LOL. Pics are dry and wet...

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Peter was good to work with. I told him what I was looking for in size and he explained the differences in colors. It took a little time for him to dig these up but I wasn't in a big hurry anyway. There are some marks in the stones but you can't feel them and Peter assured me they were not toxic and wouldn't cause an issue while honing razors. They both feel very smooth to the touch and I plan on trying them out a little tonight. Now with the Dark Blue that I have, I think I'm set for Thuri's.

I know the bouts I have got from Hatzicho (Peter) have rivaled my Hohenzollern stone. He is also a pleasure to deal with and I don’t know anyone more knowledgeable about thuringian stones.

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Peter is a pleasure to work with and his knowledge on Thuri's is second to none.
I love the stone I got from him!

You know I have considered going to him for a nice thuri before; he is obviously one of the experts on that stone.