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So I was bored and just looking at prices of hones because I have HAD but I don't have MAD (money acquisition disorder, or is it a disorder because I am not acquiring enough of it?). Anyways, I came across "the perfect edge" and saw there natural waterstones. Well thats it. I have never heard anyone mentioning them on here and it doesn't say what or where it was mined from. Anybody know anything about them. How do they perform. What are they?
a very good question indeed. The description is very lacking, in fact it doesn't even state how big they are. I went to see what you were asking about and I have to say, I'm with you on the question.
Well, seeing as they are 125 for an 8k I would say they are a rip off. I don't know anything else about them and would say go with a tried and true hone. They may be a wonderful hone, but that would be a very expensive gamble for an 8k.
Are you talking about The Perfect Edge | For all your sharpening/honing supplies ?
I know Howard has Arkansas and Belgian stones as naturals.
If it is somewhere else, give me a specific link and I'll see if I have one of the hones.
If you are learning to hone, I recommend Naniwa, Norton, or Shapton synthetic stones for your learning experience as every natural stone is different...every one. Every synthetic is pretty much the same. I could sit down with you and your Norton, Naniwa, or Shapton's and show you immediately how to hone with them...not so with naturals as I would have to learn that particular stone first & that takes time & knowing what you are doing. Sure, I could muddle my way through to a shave ready razor...but then again I have years of experience too.
Do yourself, your razors, and your face a favor...learn to hone on the synthetics. My normal recommendation is norton or naniwa...
Actually I already know how to hone. I have synthetics and naturals. I was just looking around at hones and saw this one and had no idea what it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by shooter74743
And criswilson that is the site it's under the link with the other stones and it's titled something like TPE waterstones. They are out of stock of Arkansas which was what I was really looking for.
I wasn't planning on buying that stone but just saw it and was curious
I went to that site from a link on Tim Zowdas site. Was wondering the same thing.
Well I guess they are the true mystery hone. Nobody seems to have used them or know what they are. Maybe I'll email and ask for some more details.
It don't even say the size of them.
So I emailed Howard and he said he didn't realize the info was missing. He said they are quarried in pakistan and that the cutting elements are silica and aluminum oxide. He said they are fast and need to be soaked for only 5 minutes. He said they auto slurry and that a lot of knife makers use them and some razor guys. I am guessing they are 8x3 but still no mention about size.
Arkansas stones can be used with water I've heard but most use honing oil.
Dan's Arkansas Whetstones
Natural Whetstone Company
I have used both with Arkansas stones. I prefer water because there is less mess but I have found that oil works the best to give a fantastic edge. It is best, if using oil, to soak the stone before use, the same as water stones.
I would think the oil soak would work best with the soft Arkansas? The hard black or the translucent are so hard that I would think the oil soaking would almost useless. True or not? I am new to Arkansas stones.Quote:
Originally Posted by guitstik
I am so used to my Arkansas stones that I don't think of them in terms of hard or soft. I have some that are strictly oil stones, some that I use with water and some that are dry but can be used with water. Each one has a specific use and I tend not to vary to much from those uses. My oil stones are used with hardened steel like knives, drill bits, chisels and planes. The water and dry stones also get used on knives but I stay away from the harder steels like the chisels and planes. Just because that is my way with the Arky's does not mean that I couldn't hone a razor on an oil stone, in fact, I have. The Washitas are strictly used for knives and razors.
Good deal. More info to ponder. LOL.
yes but they aren't arkansas stones they're pakistani stones. And howard, the guy who quarried them, said they are water stones not oil stones.
I find dem quite expensive in not really knowing what these stones are and how these perform....70usd and 120usd....