Thread: Which Colicule could be used as a bevel setter?

Ive set bevels many times on any coticule I've had/have. Wet the slurry stone not the hone. Raise slurry keep going no water till you get a creamy paste. Tape spine add a drop of water and a bit more pressure. Do not dilute but do not let dry out. Takes a little longer but have never had a problem bevel setting a dull edge on a coticule. from there on I remove the tape.

best would be to get a coticule that self slurrys alot. a friend of mine has one. works great and is pretty fast on bevel setting.

Originally Posted by decraew

However, when there is a lot of work to do I switch to a DMT. I haven't tried a stone faster than a diamond hone.

There are synthetics not far off diamond speed but less destructive on edges which, can make the process faster.

Originally Posted by MrMagnus

best would be to get a coticule that self slurrys alot. a friend of mine has one. works great and is pretty fast on bevel setting.

Sometimes yes, but not always a guarantee of a fast cutter. A hard coti can also be a fast cutter. Certainly a stone with a rep for speed is a good place to start but then the hunt for the ideal stone is only beginning. Ironically not many,if any, naturals will be as expedient as a synthetic for bevels.

Originally Posted by Steve56

Honestly I'd use the edge of the Chosera.

Best thing there was a for warped blades. I do this pretty frequently.

A good option for a natural bevel setter would be a lily white washita. I had one that I used for a while but didn't care for the oily mess. Works great but the one I had wasn't as fast as a chosera.

Originally Posted by onimaru55

Ironically not many,if any, naturals will be as expedient as a synthetic for bevels.

This is true IME if you limit yourself to looking at naturals with a grit equivalence of around 1k to 2k synthetic or so. There are stones that will work, but they are not common, and tend to be very soft and expensive, as in more than the Chosera.

However, if it cuts fast enough, there's no reason not to look at finer stones. The suita I used in the above post is likely around 4-5k synthetic and is typical, not a wonderful example. Suitas are fairly common although good ones are valued by woodworkers both in Japan and here, and can be expensive for a large, good example. But the little stone I used cuts as fast as a Chosera 1k but is considerably finer. On that particular one, I'd probably stick a pre-finisher in the lineup after it, but many would not need that.

Just to be clear, I am speaking of bevel setting on a sound blade, not chip removal or "course correction".

Cheers, Steve

When I think of setting a bevel on a Coticule it reminds me of that picture of a skeleton sitting in front of a computer with cobwebs and someone passing by and saying "computer been down long?"

I'm a believer in the right tool for the right job.

Originally Posted by Steve56

This is true IME if you limit yourself to looking at naturals with a grit equivalence of around 1k to 2k synthetic or so. There are stones that will work, but they are not common, and tend to be very soft and expensive, as in more than the Chosera.

However, if it cuts fast enough, there's no reason not to look at finer stones. The suita I used in the above post is likely around 4-5k synthetic and is typical, not a wonderful example. Suitas are fairly common although good ones are valued by woodworkers both in Japan and here, and can be expensive for a large, good example. But the little stone I used cuts as fast as a Chosera 1k but is considerably finer. On that particular one, I'd probably stick a pre-finisher in the lineup after it, but many would not need that.

Just to be clear, I am speaking of bevel setting on a sound blade, not chip removal or "course correction".

Cheers, Steve

Yep the 'right" Suita could do the job but at 2-3x the cost & time of a good 1k.
Personally I've used my Tsushima brick also but could do the job in half the time on my Shapton.

Again true in general. The stone I used was bought from Takeshi-San as a nagura even though it is 210mm long. I paid $35 for it. I did pick out an ugly iron line, and I take it is actually an edge trimming from a larger piece.

I'm kind of looking for a larger, faster suita, but I can say from the few I have, they're about as fast as a Chosera or Shapton, and I currently use a Shapton Pro 2k most of the time as a bevel setter. The suita is faster than my 600 Chosera, and its an ordinary suita.

It would be interesting to get So-San's take on it.

Cheers, Steve

Originally Posted by onimaru55

Yep the 'right" Suita could do the job but at 2-3x the cost & time of a good 1k.
Personally I've used my Tsushima brick also but could do the job in half the time on my Shapton.

Originally Posted by Steve56

It would be interesting to get So-San's take on it.

Cheers, Steve

So's very pragmatic & unless he's changed his mind since we last spoke he'd recommend a synthetic till 6k or 8k for razors. The Suita I first bought from him was to fit that role.

Yes, I seem to remember this was somewhere on his site at one time, maybe still is. Your memory is the second thing to go when you get old, I can't remember what the first is...

Thanks for the reminder!

Cheers, Steve

Originally Posted by onimaru55

So's very pragmatic & unless he's changed his mind since we last spoke he'd recommend a synthetic till 6k or 8k for razors. The Suita I first bought from him was to fit that role.