I was drying my beloved little Apache and she tapped the wall and broke along an existing line. It must have been close to going for it to go that easy.
Oh well, that means I have to buy another, right?
Maybe I'll try to glue it.
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I was drying my beloved little Apache and she tapped the wall and broke along an existing line. It must have been close to going for it to go that easy.
Oh well, that means I have to buy another, right?
Maybe I'll try to glue it.
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Dang that hurts. If they break that easy are you sure you want another ?
It looks like it easily can be glued. Alternatively, you might consider contacting the supplier about an exchange.
I always seal the sides of my naturals, especially helpful with the ones with lines.
This one might need to be glued and mounted for durability.
Does the edge cut through the glue as the stone wears? I have seen different post about horizontal gluing but that would never touch the edge. The finer the stone the more the possible interference.
Just wondering and tossing out my thoughts.
One of my Nortons cracked, I used marine epoxy to glue it back together. I lapped until I couldn't feel it. It's been two years with extended soakings and so far so good.
Maybe glue it to a base for added strength
Mine flew out of my hand when I got a static electricity shock and is in 10 pieces. Glue that stone together and mount it on a piece of hardwood.
What do you use?Quote:
Originally Posted by mainaman
Super glue will stick it right back together to the point you won't even be able to feel the crack when honing as long as you have a tight fit along the original crack line. Bonus: CA glue cures with moisture, so get it wet right after you glue it and it will cure even faster. I'd recommend epoxying it on or inlaying it into a nice block of wood afterward, but you don't have to if the crack line is clean and you get a good bond. I have several old stones that came to me broken and some I just glued back together not caring if they broke again - I hand hold hone with them a bunch and they have held up awesome.
Yeah, me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by mainaman
I always add a few layers of Shellac to my naturals.
That has, knock on wood, spared me any cracked or broken stones.
Heck, I even dfid it to my Chosera's once they started to show signs of too much soaking.
The 10K especially was about to dissolve...
Now it is just fine and dandy!
I would be reluctant to glue the repaired stone to a piece of wood or anything else that changes dimension with exposure to water since the backing is likely to get wet. I would scuff up a nice thick piece of G10 and glue it to that with a quality grade of epoxy. That means NO 5 minute crap.
Thanks for all the responses guys!
It did break right along an existing line. I had put a few layers of clear coat on the back and sides but maybe I should have just mounted it.
Splashone that's a good idea about maybe matching with a nonpourous material.
I'll let you know how it goes...
Shane
If Geezer and I make it to the Frozen Toe meet at Ron's, he is going to take shot at CA'ing my Grandfather's Hone/Strop which has had a "rough" life.
Bummer Shane! That is (was?) a nice little stone. BUT...you still have your Eschers and that lovely 'La Lune' that is a real gem. So just remember Shane the best advice I can give you is.......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrdEMERq8MA
By "he," did you mean Richard or me?
When I purchased mine, there was a note stating that if it cracked along the existing line, that he would replace it. Doesn't hurt to ask.
For the idea, I have to thank many folks. I have glued barber hones and some naturals. Extra thin CA was my adhesive of choice when the material fit back together very closely. It takes more than one application; for one bond, I used fine wet dry sandpaper as the last ca application of ca was setting and it filled the bond edges. Wet sanded afterward with 600-1K- barber hone wet. It will discolor some stones but has not hurt any edge I've honed on it. This stone is less than a quarter inch thick.
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For that Irregular stone, I would suggest bedding it in plaster of Paris. I have a few oldies in boxes and cases that used that or Cutlers' cement. That is often combination of brick dust and plaster, or cutlers' resin:
From Wikipedia:
Cutler's resin is a synthetic resin made of pine pitch, beeswax, and sawdust or carnauba wax used for centuries (to today) to attach knife handles. It is used as both an adhesive and for waterproofing. The word cutler means "one who makes knives". Hence the word 'cutlery'.
Another possibility was pitch or pine tar sometimes with fine saw dust..
Have fun, the hone is worth saving.
~Richard
Thanks again - tons of good advice!
I went ahead and glued it together this morning. I'm letting that cure like that since the pieces fit together so well.
Now I'll have to look at what to imbed it in...
Didn't know that- thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by evnpar
Thanks buddy- I really am liking that La Lune. I think this will be back in working order after it cures up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfpack34
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Originally Posted by Utopian
Richard, sorry for the confusion
OK good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geezer
It seems pretty obvious "he" is Richard.
Never used it for a hone but, anybody use Gorilla glue on one? So far, I've used it to glue back together a pair of boots that was separating an a dishwasher assembly that broke. So far so good!
Mike
I don't know if that would be a good idea - that stuff expands as it cures/dries, might push the joint apart enough to cause a nasty click or drag while honing. It also frequently forms bubbles in the dried glue.
Agreed. Don't use Gorilla glue for hones. It was recommended to me years ago and I used it to join to sides of a coticle. It cracked fairly soon after the glue-up.
Go to Walmart and purchase a delrin cutting board, rough the surface you are going to glue the stone to after cutting it to size with a miter saw or hack saw.I did this on a ark I broke years ago and used it for a very long time before giving it away to a friend.
Gorilla glue expands into cracks . That's kinda its thing, I wouldn't use it on a hone. Cheers , -CAM-Quote:
Originally Posted by mglindo
OK, no Gorilla glue for hones! :D But the stuff is growing on me. Strong stuff.:p
Mike
It can be put in a mold and poor into a a GIPS - Ri gips or plastificant de Paris it is caled in USA . The natural , and the fine hones qcrack very easily . I have a coticule that cracs during the lapping process . They have to be treated very carefuly .
I think , that the Apachee hone looks amasing , almost sure ,that it works briliant . If you broke one buy another , you will use the broken as nagura or slury stones.
Unfortunately those hones are not avaible here in EU .
It can be put in a mold and poor into a a GIPS - Ri gips or plastificant de Paris it is caled in USA . The natural , and the fine hones qcrack very easily . I have a coticule that cracs during the lapping process . They have to be treated very carefuly .
I think , that the Apachee hone looks amasing , almost sure ,that it works briliant . If you broke one buy another , you will use the broken as nagura or slury stones.
Unfortunately those hones are not avaible here in EU .
Yeah plaster is an interesting idea too. If I'm not mistaken it doesn't shrink as it dries so maybe it'd be safe to use on the stone
contact Terry for a replacement, if that does not work it will glue just fine
Well I went ahead and attempted the fix. I used two part epoxy, let it set for at least a couple days then lapped it.
I wanted to wait till I honed on it to re-post. The touch up went great so I'll call this one a success. Thanks for the tips!
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It looks great. I really like these stones and I'm happy that it worked out for you.
Ha! That's almost the shape of my home state! 'Grats on the successful repair.
