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Thread: Chosera 800x for bevel set
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03-26-2015, 02:48 AM #1
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Thanked: 18Chosera 800x for bevel set
Is anybody else using this stone? I find its exceptional for a wedge but not as nice for hollow grounds.
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03-26-2015, 12:51 PM #2
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Thanked: 458What don't you like about it? Particle size is probably the same as the particles in the shapton 1000 or king 800. Do you feel it's a bit too strong for hollow grounds?
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03-26-2015, 02:29 PM #3
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Thanked: 13226Honestly we were just discussing this the other day
In the discussion were two other very very busy honers two of us do mostly Restores so we see a lot of "Less then Perfect" bevels
The discussion centered around several new vids on honing that were encouraging lower and lower grit stones to "Get r Done" on the bevel
So we all thought about how often we needed to drop below our 1k stones for edge restoration
Turned out the answer was not very often at all, now that could be because we are just that damn good at honing
But we all agreed that the lower you go the more issues you are going to have from cutting so deeply into the steel at the bevel which leads to a Harsh Fragile edge..
An 800 really isn't that bad, honestly,, but yes the lower you go especially on the finer thinner Hollows the more issues you can create for yourself..
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03-26-2015, 04:54 PM #4
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Thanked: 3215Yea, I have a 600 and 800 Chosera and used to use them more often, but not so much lately.
When correcting post bread knifing, I use a diamond plate in the 300 -325 grits to knock off the corners and begin to flatten the bevels leaving much of the flat edge, then with a 1k bring them to meeting.
I found any time saved using sub 1k stones or plates is often paid for with chipping from the deep stria of low grits.
If you get chipping at the higher grits you then have to remove steel and do it all over again.
For me it is much more effective to spend the time, (which really is not that much) and just bring the bevel flat and meeting with a 1k, easing up on the pressure the closer they are to meeting.
If you do use the 800, use lite pressure in the final laps to reduce deep stria and begin polishing the bevels.
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03-26-2015, 04:56 PM #5
Great thread. I was actually considering getting a Chosera 800 to save some money instead of getting the 1k. Not that I need it, but I kind of wanted it.
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03-26-2015, 08:51 PM #6
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Thanked: 18Specifically I'm worried about weakening the edge and causing microchipping at the finishing levels. It doesnt seem to be too much of an issue in wedges but I think the hollow grounds are bit more sensitive.
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04-03-2015, 10:24 AM #7
Good stuff here, I am not a seasoned pro at honing, I do some restoring and hone some of my own blades. I really enjoy my Chosera 1K for most of my leg work. I will hit my JNS 1K to clean up and ensure bevel set, then to my Naniwa SS 3,8, then 12. The 1K will take plenty of steel off a razor fairly quickly. I don't change much in my honing rituals, because they have been proven to work and I have not mastered what I do have. Some would say as soon as you think you have mastered it, then next ten kick your ass. I think each blade can make you feel like a beginner and you have to start with fresh eyes and see what the steel brings your way.
I am very appreciative of all the knowledge and sharing each and everyone has provided me with. Look forward to future endeavors with many of you.
Gonzo
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04-03-2015, 12:45 PM #8
Great post helped me make up my mind not go below 1k was pondering the same dilemma last few days thanks for the great info
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04-03-2015, 01:31 PM #9
I have the 4-6-800 in addition to the rest of the Chosera line.
I use the stones below 1K a lot, but hardly ever on razors.
On knives though, they are great.
But as been stated in this thread already, going below 1K is not done very often at all when it comes to razors.
IMO.Bjoernar
Um, all of them, any of them that have been in front of me over all these years....
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04-04-2015, 09:49 AM #10
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Thanked: 4Same here, on knife sharpening I use a lot chosera 600/SS1000 but I feel it too much aggressive on razors, I like to start with Chosera 2000.