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I can feel that my razor needs a refresh, so I'm considering buying this (mino Sharp Slipsten #1000/8000 inkl. MC462 - minoShap - Global - RoyalDesign.se) and was hoping for opinions. Sorry that it's in Swedish, but the manufacturer is "mino Sharp", and it's a 1k/8k stone.
Is this a reputable manufacturer? Are those stones too rough for refreshing a blade?
Thanks!
I'm no expert, but 1k is unnecessary for touching up, that's more a hone for bevel setting; so I wouldn't use that for touching up a razor, otherwise you'll have to progress your entire way up to higher grits.
8K is alright but probably more a polishing stone rather than a finisher, many would prefer a higher grit hone to touch up razors and shave off of, like a 10K or a 12K
I'm into natural stones, but they're unique and there's a lot of variable factors with these hones
The Naniwas Superstones have been getting a lot of praise around here.
A Naniwa 12K would be a good choice for touching up razors, unless when your razor is pretty dulled and you might have to drop down to an 8K followed by a 10K or 12K
I touch up with a Naniwa 12k. It's great.
For general refreshing any reliable finisher will do the trick. Way back in the day I think there were a lot of thuringians used as well as the other fine slates.
Have never heard of that stone, it is a bit pricy.
I would go with at least a 12k, You can’t go wrong with a 12k Super Stone for half the price.
Thanks to all.
I'll have a look for a 12k Naniwa.
I'm certainly very new to honing but my Naniwa's have made learning pretty easy.
The 12k has always refreshed a blade very easily for me and with great results.
The mino Sharp Slipsten looks like it would be useful for both "refreshing" and "bevel setting" a razor. Therefore it would be a better value than a single-grit stone. Also, it is available in Sweden, which is convenient and perhaps less costly to ship. If I were you I would favor getting the mino Sharp over the Naniwa, which is no doubt a fine stone but also somewhat of a fad on SRP.
Wow that is expensive for a combination stone. Then again Swedish prices would likely knock most people's socks off.
The one down side of a 1K/8K combo stone is that you would still be missing an in between grit hone. You'd be a long time on the 8K to get rid of the striations left by the 1K hone. Generally people have a 3K or 5K hone in a progression between the 1K and 8K.
The Naniwa stones are just fine and most people use them because they are proven and readily available in our market. The Mino Sharp Slipsen may be a fine hone too but it is just that it is not as readily available in our market and few if any have used it for SR honing so it is a bit of an unknown quantity for anyone to actually recommend.
Good luck in your search for a finisher hone and yes I like my Naniwa 12K for finishing.
Bob
If what you want is to just refresh then the 12K naniwa would be my choice but there are those who would pick the Barbers pocket hone the Swaty. The 12K naniwa puts a really nice finishing touch to a already sharp razor and in my line up of hones. before I acquired the 12K I had a swaty and to just freshen up a sharp blade it did well. just my thoughts on the subject.
there are people on SRP that only take their razor up to 8k then strop and shave, but most of us like to go beyond the 8k point to make the shave easier and more comfortable.
~the nani 12k is a good suggestion.
~but i think a barbers hone would also be great for you. they are around 8k but generally leave a smoother finish than a synthetic 8k and they were made to specifically for barbers to refresh their blades. and they are pretty cheap
~ coticles are good but very tough to learn and their prices have risen very much, i wouldnt recommend it.
plus chromium oxide paste will always kick your edge up to the next level and its cheap.
I have naniwa 12k ...great stone,but expensive. You can find at good price also charnley forest or some Escher. But if you have fear about the authenticity of natural stone you can buy nani 10k/12k without problem
The mino sharp are global knife brands hone. Should be a decent quality but as said only one side will be of any use and because of its knife background there won't be any information on it to do with razors. A 12k is quite a capable hone and with slurry will bring back a lagging blade that needs more than just a touch up.
The Naniwa 12k is a good stone, but can leave a bit of a harsh edge. You may want to use a paddle strop with crox after the 12k.
A small size thuringisn will gett the job done , at the best manner
Having looked around a bit, I found this:
Naniwa Specialty Stone - Super Stone Full Set 1000/5000/8000/12000 - SLIQHAQ (Again, sorry for it being in Swedish).
Four stones -- 1k/5k/8k/12k -- for the equivalent of about $240.
That might be a little much, since I probably won't need the 1k or 5k for a while, so maybe the 8k, 12k, and a CrOx stick. How's that sound? That should keep my blade refreshed and shave-ready for quite some time, right?
I bought those four when I first purchased stones, knowing I would not probably use the 1 & 5 much to start. As it turned out, I started practicing from bevel set on a practice razor pretty quickly and was glad I had them.
You could certainly get away with just the 12 or the 8 & 12.
Just depends on what you plan to do or end up doing. Again, I'm new to this but really like my Nani's.
You've got lots of options. Ideally you want a 10k-12k range stone. You can go synthetic with a Naniwa, Shapton or Norton etc or you can go natural with a JNAT, Thuringian, Chinese 12k or a Coticule.
just picked up a new Thuringian from Germany so will see if I can keep my pro-honed razors sharp with that and my Swaty.
Can you please share the site name?Quote:
Originally Posted by furious
Sure. It's from Toolshop.de and has been written up here and elsewhere. Some love it, some don't, but for my purposes it should be fine.
Any thoughts on the Shapton Pro 12k? Would that be as good as the Naniwa 12k?
I've got a set of Shapton Pro stones, including the 12k. Although I've never used a Naniwa 12k, I really like the finish and feedback of the Shaptons. Another great advantage is that you don't have to soak them. Just a spray or wipe with water and you're ready to go. I can highly recommend the Shapton Pro stones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thug
I would also request feedback on the shapton pro 12k. I understand Pro 12k in the Japanese market is the same as Shapton Glass 14k? In the US market. Is this true?
From the SRP Library - Hones - comparison table - Straight Razor Place LibraryQuote:
Originally Posted by luv2shave
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ceramic abrasives in a resin binder.quite hard need less flattening. cuts fast. no soak needed just a bit water on the surface.work without slurry.known for their finer edge. however the pro series has a reputation for too fast wearing for their stones 1k and under. also the 15k pro (rated 12K on their domestic Japanese version) compared to the 16k glass is more expensive and gives less feedback. also the finish achieved is somewhat matte compared to the more traditional waterstones