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Hey everybody,
I have a Shun whetstone that I use for sharpening my kitchen knives. It is a 1k/6k combination stone. Supposing I flattened it before using it for razor honing, do you think it will work using it in combination with a naniwa 12k (for finishing)?? I am mostly concerned with honing a good razor every ~3-4 months, not talking about restoring old blades.
Thanks!
I'd be really surprised if it was actually 6k... my wusthoff 3000 8000 is more coarse than a 1600 grit chinese scribble stone... and an 800 king stone
Andre, How can I tell what grit my stone actually has?
You can't really tell by feel, try searching for the manufacturer. I bet you could hone a razor using it and a naniwa 8 or 10 or 12k. You would have to find out by testing it.
I'll do some more research before I try it out. But I was hoping I could use it with a naniwa 12k for my razors.Quote:
Originally Posted by S0LITARYS0LDIER
You could... i use a 1600 for my razors... but i am a noob... at least you could set the bevel... but i just cautioned against taking the grit and including it in the progression at face value. In any case using very light pressure makes the grit scratch finer up to a point too... i apply too much pressure mostly so... just make sure you clean them well...
Understood! I appreciate your thoughts!Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreGrobler
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Originally Posted by manuelz
You could use the 12k Naniwa once a week or so & not be concerned about the other stones unless you have an accident & blade needs repair.
Great option. I find the problem with these cheap Chinese water stones is that no one knows their true grit rating and even less want to find that out by trying. It's a sad state of affairs.Quote:
Originally Posted by onimaru55
Yea, probably, but as Oz said, you really don’t need to. The 12k Super Stone is a very aggressive, vestal stone and will actually set a bevel if the damage is not too bad.
You 1-6K stone is probably 1,6k grit but there is a lot more to a stone, that will hone a razor than the grit size. For razors how the binder released and the kind of grit or grits, is as if not more important that the size.
Many inexpensive stones release and break down way to quickly and the surface will not remain flat.
But again, is all moot, if you just maintain your razor with the 12k. Here is a thread on removing a small chip with a 12k Super Stone.
I have some experience with the Shun 300x/1k, but not the 6k. It belongs to my work, so I mainly have used it for high end hair scissors and some of the nicer knives that come in for sharpening, but I haven't put a razor to it. I can't speak to the 6k, but the 1k leaves a very nice finish for the grit level and is overall a very high quality stone. I think they are getting an established Japanese stone company to produce them for them, not a Chinese company like a lot of other knife companies do.
If you have a razor other than your designated user that you don't mind making a guinea pig, lap both sides flat and smooth and give it a whirl. Given my experience with the quality of their stones, your main hick ups will probably be general hick ups that most beginners run into, not the quality of the stone.
I came into the discussion thinking it was very good quality. You can really feel the smoothness of the 6k side.Quote:
Originally Posted by RefGent
Question for all: For a new straight razor that is "shave ready", can I hone it up to actual shave readiness using just the naniwa 12k?
If its shave ready all you would be doing is maintaining on the 12k which is totally do able, another option for that is a simple pasted strop. Way cheaper.Quote:
Originally Posted by manuelz
I think that the only way you will see where and if the stone fits is to try and meet up with someone with a good range of hones and physically compare the finishes produced, either that or if you aren't too worried about your razor just try it and see what happens. I 2nd definitely tape up the spine though.
However as has been said if you do a few laps regularly on the 12k the coarser stones will be redundant provided the edge doesn't get damaged. I have been maintaining a razor used 14 days out of 21 with either pasted strops or a barber hone and have done so for about a year.
Absolutely, make sure to lap your 12k flat, and look at the edge to see why it is not shaving well. A 60X lighted loupe can be purchased for $2-3. Look at the edge and what you see determines what you need to do.
Read the first 3 threads at the beginning of the honing forum. Do not just jump in and start honing without identifying what need repairing.