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So, I just got the holy grail of bevel setters and am very excited. It is by far the largest hone I have in terms of length. I got mine without a base, so I'm wondering if I should glue it down to something stable before I use it.
What do you guys use for bases and adhesive?
I have a few Chosera stones all without bases because that's how I prefer my stones, I don't like stones on bases I think it can hold in moisture and lead to problems, just use a adjustable stone holder.
I had the same issue, but had a gokumyo 20k that came with a nice base that barely fit the chosera size. Sold the gokumyo and was left empty handed. I've also been annoyed trying to hold the skinny dmt diamond plates during lapping. Long story short, amazon has steelex stone holders for under 20 bucks. They are awesome and should hold any size hone you encounter.
I should say that I do have a stone holder. I'm more wondering about how fragile it might be without being attached to something sturdy
I'm confused. What stone holder do you have? Mine is very "sturdy" and I have no issues. When I'm honing all I look for is that my stone is elevated enough for ease of motion and the stone doesn't move back and forth, both problems solved with the steelex adjustable stone holder.
When I got the Suehiro gokumyo 20k I fell in love with the base. (the stone is not attached, but just fits in the rubber base when in use)
I put a WTB in the classifieds for the base only and a kind hearted member saw it, sent two of them to me and I use them for just about everything but the diamond plates. For those I use the standard rubber/steel bolt thingie.
I use two of these. One to hold whatever stone I'm using and another one to keep my 325 DMT in.
There's enough adjustment left that I could use a hone 1.5"'s longer than anything I own.
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I agree. I feel lost without it now. The holder roy showed is the one I have now, and I think I like it better. I don't have to squeeze the chosera to fit anymore, and it makes using a dmt 1000x easier.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyHAD
Sorry, I'm really not being clear enough. I have a Naniwa adjustable stone holder. I'm talking about durability of the stone over the long term and it's ability to take the stresses of use and lapping if not attached to a permanent sturdy base like a floor tile or piece of wood. Some people do this with thinner naturals and this stone is very long and less than an inch thick, so I was wondering if I should be concerned with this one even though it is a synthetic.
I don't see that being an issue. You could make a base if you feel the need, but it's definitely not necessary.
I found a picture of the Naniwa adjustable stone holder at SRD. It looks very similar to the one that I use pictured above. If I'm correct you'll note that there is a support in the middle. As long as your hone is flat it will be very well supported.
I have a Zulu Grey and a Chinese both are only 3/4" thick and 10" long. I also have an Arkansas Hard black that is only about 1/2" thick and 6" long and all are very well supported.
I think that you are needlessly worrying about nothing.
All of the hones that I've seen that were mounted in wood were oil stones.
With that said if you have your heart set on making a stone holder out of wood, make sure that it's well sealed so the water doesn't soak in and warp or split the wood. But I personally wouldn't bother. :shrug:
Here's a cedar base I made for a jnat.
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The answer to your question is it is absolutely fine without a base. Yes you can place it on a base for use but as long as you are careful with it you can store it and lap it and rinse it and basically do anything but play baseball with it without a base. It is sufficiently structurally sound that it does not need the support of a permanent base.
You are fine with the Naniwa Steelex stone holder. The Naniwa is the same holder but the part that holds the stone is not as deep, to accommodate the thinner, 10mm Naniwa stones.
I don’t even bother to tighten them down in the holder, just set them in loose, or on the rubber holder, mostly for additional height to clear my hands from hitting the bench. Been doing that for years.
No, you do not need to be concerned. That's really all there is to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by RefGent
To be more specific,
You would NORMALLY not be concerned. If you are putting too much pressure on any stone you would risk cracking it. In 20 years or so when you have worn the stone down to 1/4 inch thick it might be an issue too.
