Whaddaweavere - Thuringian or Charnley Forest or Llyn Idwal or chunk of Jasper or...

[stillshunter]

Took a punt on a couple of stone on ePay; I don't know they just looked promising.



After a couple of hours work, they came out looking a little more interesting.



There's enough resources on the red/blue stones that I think I'll figure if I have me a La Lorraine, Belgian Blue, Rouge du Salm, etc. All I know though is it's not likely a finisher. But the green one feels harder and finer, but its origin has me stumped. Before hitting the diamonds, I thought it likely a Thuringian (yellow/green probably), but now I'm doubtful. It's more on the turquoise green side and has a generous amount of reddish striations.
Makes it look a little more like a Charnley Forest or Llyn Idwal?


(set against the Chosera 1k for colour calibration purposes)

Will hone with her later today, but be really keen on your opinion so I might narrow down what I have, and take a better punt on where to use it in a coticule progression, whether to use it with slurry, plain water, a little detergent, etc.



Thanks in advance.

[Martin103]

Big stone looks like Lynn Mellylynn or Vosgiennes, hard or soft? slurry color?
Small stone could be a variation of Llyn Idwal? what it difficult to lap?

[eKretz]

Big stone is probably Rouge du Salm, BBW or something along those lines - I'd say definitely not Vosgienne - the figure (almost like woodgrain that changes dependent on viewing angle) that is present in those looks absent in this stone.

The smaller stone looks like a Llyn Id or Charn (leaning toward Charn if the red that I think I see is really there) to me - can't make out the color very well, viewing on a phone screen.

[ScottGoodman]

Big stone is probably Rouge du Salm, BBW or something along those lines - I'd say definitely not Vosgienne - the figure (almost like woodgrain that changes dependent on viewing angle) that is present in those looks absent in this stone.

The smaller stone looks like a Llyn Id or Charn (leaning toward Charn if the red that I think I see is really there) to me - can't make out the color very well, viewing on a phone screen.

I agree with the big stone for sure.

Does the small stone feel harder or softer than the large stone when lapping/slurrying?

[stillshunter]

Thanks fellas.

The small stone green stone was far harder to lap. Was very dished so quite the grind getting it flat. The Atoma 400 struggled so I had to resort to sandpaper to lose the bulk. Went from 80 to 240 then to the Atoma.

First hone with it, just plain water after a dilucot progression and it chipped the edge! Couldn't figure why, swore lots and then just finished on the La Dressente. Once the green stone dried I noticed some scratches on the face - must have been some rogue grains off the sandpaper that made it to the last Atoma run. Being so hard a stone, I think during the hone these scratches took little bites out of the edge. So spent another half hour or so going slow with the Atoma to finally rid it of the scratches (they were deeper than I thought!), then to the Chosera 1k and Shapton 5k to smooth it out.

Oddly the little green stone slurries on the Atoma 400 but it makes the Chosera 1k spew its green yeti snot. So must be a hard little bugger. Meanwhile the red stone slurries red/brown on the Chosera 1k. Tried the little green stone again to finish a Sheffield and it put quite a nice shine on the edge following the coticule. I'll know more tomorrow morning when I test shave but we might just have ourselves a finisher here.

[adrspach]

For some reason I do not think is CF or LI. More thinking of other hard slate type hones.

[ScottGoodman]

If it's that hard, I have to say it's not a slate. Reminds me of the African Silkvein, but is of the wrong color. Charnley Forrest's don't have that type of markings, so it's out...but I can't say its not in the same family.

Since it came with the La Lorrain (which IMO is a great pre-finisher), I would bet it's a finisher of some sort. Have fun with it! Maybe someone will step up with the knowledge of it's information.

[eKretz]

If those lines are reddish (and it's pretty hard) I think it could definitely be a Charn still. They have all kinds of different and varied markings from the examples I've seen.

[adrspach]

In past I got across some PHIG which were harder to lap then CF.

[eKretz]

Yeah they seem to have a bit of range in both appearance and hardness. By reading their accounts, some guys have gotten what they've described as some fairly soft ones, and others are super hard.