Ok so after researching this a bit I purchased the recommended 1k naniwa as well as 3k 8k 12k a holder and a ATM75-4E ATOMA 400k for lapping them flat. If I am understanding this right this is all I will need to sharpen my razors. I received the 12k and holder today but the 1/3/8 k stones and the lapping plate will take month from japan. I guess that is alright as the strops I ordered will take a while from japan also. So I will continue using my replaceable blade razors for know.