Just noticed that Sharpening Supplies has started carrying their own line of synth water stones. Anyone get a chance to try some of these out? I'm most curious about these...
https://www.sharpeningsupplies.com/S...nes-P1542.aspx
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Just noticed that Sharpening Supplies has started carrying their own line of synth water stones. Anyone get a chance to try some of these out? I'm most curious about these...
https://www.sharpeningsupplies.com/S...nes-P1542.aspx
They sound good but I just hate soaking a stone so my preference is towards splash and go
I don't mind soaking, except when I'm on the road. The vitrified bond is interesting, as is the ability to leave all the stones in water all the time. The latter makes me want to think they are similar to Norton stones, but I don't think the Nortons are vitrified--are they?
Just a friendly bump to see if anyone has given these a shot...
forgot about this! if no one has tried them I'll go ahead and order an 8000 and give it a whirl. kind of wish they had knocked $10 off the price and gone without those boxes.. but oh well
I agree, the wooden boxes are pretty silly for a stone that will probably need a while to dry out first. Personally, I would want start out with something at the grunt stage. Maybe the 1000 to see how it delivers the goods. Then up or down from there.
I think the 8K is equally important, good to know if it gives a proper 8K finish that you can strop and shave off of. But I'm not in the market for another set of synthetic stones lol. I have a set of Norton and Shapton Kuromakus, those are liable to outlast me lol.
Well, somewhere in the neighborhood of $265 for the 4 stone kit (1/3/6/8K) actually doesn't seem too unreasonable. This is of course assuming they deliver the goods on the same level as Norton, Naniwa, Shapton, or King. Thanks for bringing it to our attention, it'll be interesting to see folks test them out and report back with their findings.
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I always wondered about these too. Oddly, there don't ever seem to be any reviews from purchasers on Howard's site about them.
They look like Norton stones.
Yes. Priced curiously similar as well :hmmm::hmmm:Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveW
Nahh. Nortons are an old fashioned waterstone & quite soft. These sound something like Bester stones which are soakers but don't wear fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brontosaurus
When I hear “vitrified bond” I think of Norton India stones but these are water stones. Interesting. I am not big on synthetics but this has me curious however at those prices I will wait for someone else to try them.
Yes, someone posted a video here recently where a guy claimed that one could use oil on King water-stones, among other supposed no-nos. Then he went on to say how a vitrified hone best benefits from oil rather than water. That got me wondering about these once again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steel
I'm curious as well. Too bad they don't have a 12k.
Well, they're made in the US. Not sure who else it would be other than Norton.
I have a couple of very fine vitrified stones from Japan that are in the 4-6k range. They're old, though, and only one of them had oil on it at some point.
I've never invested in a dedicated synth progression. Normally, I trail off in the 3k-5k range, leaving the rest to naturals. Here, I'm thinking the intended progression might be 1k > 6k or 1k > 3k > 8k, not that I need to try another 1k > 6k combo. Silicon carbide lapping stones are generally poo-pooed, but even this double-sided (120x/320x) "double-time" lapping stone seems interesting. Only thing is, what to use to lap the lapping stone when the time comes.
Looks like they're encouraging the jump from 1k to 6k based on their bundle offeringQuote:
Originally Posted by Brontosaurus
https://www.sharpeningsupplies.com/3...t-P1572C4.aspx
Obviously this setup is intended more for kitchen knives than razors. 1-6k is a little to much of a jump for my taste to be honest.
I have actually run into this. I have become accustomed to using a crystolon stone to lap/refresh my Washita/Arkansas stones and I use loose grit SIC powder to lap the crystolon stone. I have only had to do this once in the past year but it seemed to bring it back to a high quality state in just a few minutes. I’m not sure what their “double time” stone is made of but the SIC may be an option.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brontosaurus
That's a good tip about the Crystolon stone used with SiC powder for Arks and maybe Indias. The "Double Time" stone consists of green silicon carbide, a little bit harder than black SiC according to their video clip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steel
I've gotten by pretty well with a Suehiro 1k/6k combo followed by a pasted strop; but yeah, I agree that the intention is for knives and woodworking tools--it's stated as such in the description. But then, what synth honing progression in the 1k to 8k range has been manufactured with straight-razors in mind, rather than knives and woodworking tools?Quote:
Originally Posted by Butzy
Good point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brontosaurus
Hey all, I just got an email back from Dan at Sharpening Supplies. here's what he had to add to the general description of the stones:
"The Sharpening Supplies Water Stones are not made by Norton. We do as a store sell the Norton stones, but these stones were developed independently. In fact I find them to be a favorable comparison to the Nortons. They have a harder, more immediate and less muddy feel, along with superior wear resistance in direct comparison.
I compare the feel of the abrasive and wear when using the stones to be similar to the Naniwa Professional (New Chosera) line. I like using them with a wet surface and though they form a slurry, it is not a really thick one.
The best way I can describe using them is that you can feel them working when you glide over the stone, as opposed to the muddy feel of a Norton or the slow and slick feel of a Naniwa Sharpening (New Super) Stone."
I'll probably pick up at least the 8k in the future and write a review on here for anyone that cares to know how it feels on a straight. Would also send it around to interested members if anyone was interested in that.
You, Butzy, must have been the guy who sent Dan at Sharpening Supplies an e-mail, because I spoke with him on the phone this morning, and he asked me, "Are you the guy who sent me the e-mail?" What he told me on the phone sort of concurs with what you quoted above. He said that overall, the stones in question have a kind of sandy feeling, and did not have a soft, muddy feeling. I asked him what line of stones they were selling came closest to the feel and wear of these stones and he said the Naniwa Pro (Chosera) stones, followed by maybe the Shaptons (I'll suppose the white stones as the multi-colored Shapton Pros are brittle in feel). He told me that he had shaved successfully off the 8k, provided that one strops first. I said I would be inclined towards 1k > 3k > 8k as to a full progression and he replied that that seemed good. We also had a chat about the Double-Time flattening stone, and he thought silicon carbide on a granite stone would do the trick when the lapping plate needed truing. Coarse side of the flattening stone analogous to Norton's, while the fine side yields a finish analogous to 320x w/d sandpaper. Both need soaking in water. Oil use with these vitrified stones is not a good idea.
That's too funny. you must have called him right after I sent the email. Well now i think we have all the information we need other than actually trying it!!
Almost six months later, still no one has used this line of stones?
No sir. You are the only one. What are your thoughts on them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brontosaurus
I don't have one. I was hoping someone else would take the plunge first. ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Steel