I just got this fantastic stone. I have progression slurry stones but recently used a DMT fine, medium and course to raise a slurry. I am amazed how great the edge turned out. Has anyone else experienced results like this?
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I just got this fantastic stone. I have progression slurry stones but recently used a DMT fine, medium and course to raise a slurry. I am amazed how great the edge turned out. Has anyone else experienced results like this?
I don't like slurry made from diamond plates on JNats and don't like altering the surface of the hone while doing so. Other than that, I'm glad it works for you!
The joys of jnat honing and the success that follows. :tameshigiri:
I haven’t had the same success with DMT slurry but I’m glad you’re enjoying the results. I always end up with a less than comfortable edge, or at least not as comfortable as I get with a Tomo slurry. The Kasumi finish is also much more pronounced with dmt slurry for me. Has that been your experience?
It makes sense, the slurry made with a diamond plate will almost certainly be composed of much larger and sharper edged particles than one made with a tomo. That's probably why slurry made with a diamond plate cuts MUCH faster in many cases also. I get somewhat more comfortable edges with Tomo slurry as well.
I actually have a Nakayama Tomae also :)
A light slurry from a DGLP Shapton gives an awesome finish.. Especially if you continue to work that slurry all the way until the stone is almost dry again
The longer a DMT slurry is worked the more comfortable the edge gets in my experience. Probably due to the particles getting smaller and more rounded off as they're used.
I use to think this way about DN slurry too. I found that the properties of a great tomo and the base stone mixed do give me my preferred edge, but not only will the slurry from a very fine worn out DN give you a good smooth edge if you have a great base stone and work the slurry right, but it will also tell you the properties of said base stone and help you with figuring out what tomo you would like to match up to it.
I am finding the use of a fine DMT will give a very good slurry. I am going to try the extra fine to see what results it produces. I also used my fine Tomo to see what results that gives. Thanks to GSSIXGUN for the suggestions. It is more of a learning process with the Tomo but thats the fun of taking a exceptional stone and seeing what you can couple it with to produce the smooth sharp edge and comfortable shave. Always open to what my fellow wet shavers have found.
jkatzman... rock on...trying new things is the fun in honing!!! When you play and learn and discover...in my opinion...it's the most fun!
When you get a stone thats so damn hard that even a worn dmt doesn't raise much of a slurry on it and your hardest nagura produces minimal slurry (which i appreciate nowadays) as that minimal amount of slurry breaks down and the steel is being removed at such a fine level,,, your slurry will oxidize (slowly turn to rust) and a whole new world of fine edges is at your doorstep!!! I'm sure i'm not the only one that has ever experienced this! Have fun my friend and using a dmt is ok in my books...bad honing habits well...
Bruce
I have a Nakayama Kiita and another Nakayama Kiita like stone ( it produces a softer creamier slurry ) anyway I have about 8 tomo nagura’s which some are matched to the base stones and some are not but they all produce very acceptable edges coming off my 8 or 12k the unmatched ones need to the kick to the 12K, I also have used both with a 1200 DN slurry and get excellent edges as well but seems it takes a tad longer to break down the slurry
Well you can cheat you know, raise a DMT slurry then break it down with a tomo which will add some of it's own slurry.
Cheers, Steve
I have been fixated with this stone for some reason. I have tried raising a slurry with the DMT's course, fine and extra fine. I also tried the slurry stone Alex sent with the stone. I tried the 3 stone progression and lastly I found a Tomo Alex previously sent me. I am finding the Tomo to work the best with Lynn's circle technique. I have also tried 3 other ways from other honemeisters. I have in the past gone to my Mastro Livi loom strop and used the chromium oxide and leather for finishing. I found that I used to many laps on the chromium oxide. I now use 5 laps on the chromium oxide and 60 laps on the leather. I think the 60 is overdoing it but what the heck its good exercise. The edges on my vintage and new razors are now very sharp and I am amazed how comfortable the shave is. You hardly feel the razor cutting. I think I've found the promised land!