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    Your pictures are not there.
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    Links to pics are ok...
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    Hard to say for me from the pictures. If you have a BBW to compare it to, the Lorraine stone is more violet. With all the mottling, perhaps it was a "dig" castoff, rejected by the quarry and found nearby?
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    Hard to tell what it is but it does not look like a Lorraine
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    The sparkles on the surface are a little bit irritating. From the side view- could well be a La Lorraine. Also the crack through the stone - white line is somehow typical for lorraine (not the crack but white lines). All in all - not sure but could well be.
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    Yea look like it could be one to me, pics are not great, but the coloring, Salmon like dots, inclusions, layering from the side and if it slurries red as you say, probably is.

    The proof is in the finish it provides, as good or better that a quality fine Thüringen.

    Try it wet with a couple drops of Smith’s or Ballistol.

    These stones are still somewhat of a mystery as to their origins. No doubt they are finishers and I find it most interesting that they were used as backers to Coticules, perhaps as dual grit hones.

    Surprisingly they are still floating about in the wild. I picked up a small 1.5X6 a year ago at a swap meet for $2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euclid440 View Post
    Yea look like it could be one to me, pics are not great, but the coloring, Salmon like dots, inclusions, layering from the side and if it slurries red as you say, probably is.

    The proof is in the finish it provides, as good or better that a quality fine Thüringen.

    Try it wet with a couple drops of Smith’s or Ballistol.

    These stones are still somewhat of a mystery as to their origins. No doubt they are finishers and I find it most interesting that they were used as backers to Coticules, perhaps as dual grit hones.

    Surprisingly they are still floating about in the wild. I picked up a small 1.5X6 a year ago at a swap meet for $2.
    Hi Euclid,
    are you sure that you don!t confuse the Lorraine with another stone concerning the finishing?

    The Lorraine hones are mined together with coticules and BBW in the Ardennes quarries. They are not belonging to the coticules nor to BBW but are representing an own layer in the coticule quarries. From the performance they are somehow in between the BBW and coticules. So they can be used for razors of course and can also provide a good edge if solely used. But in the past, they were mainly used to sharpen tools.
    Maurice form Ardennes Coticules still mines the Lorraine but sells them together with the blue stones as BBW. In fact the layers are hard to distinguish when mined in the quarry. I remembered that once we looked for the Lorraine in the Ol' Preu quarry together with Maurice, it was quite hard to find some Lorraine within the BBW material.
    However - if your stone is a La Lorraine, it is worth trying and using!
    Regards Peter

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    Are you sure it's not something like Tam O' Shanter? That's the first thing that comes to mind. I've read also about inclusions like a "bull's eye" or something like that. I haven't dissected a bull, but I'll assume that they are similar to the ones in your stone.

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    Don't think it is a Tam. The backside of the stone seems to not have these spots which make me think, it might be only something on the surface, maybe oil spots or something else. But the Lorraine layer is known for quartz inclusions and the line and also other irregularities you see in the stone look like quartz. In the past I had quite a couple of Lorraines with quartz inclusions that I sort out. Will have a look in my boxes and see if I find something similar.
    Regards Peter
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